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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:15 pm 
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With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Guyperson: D-vid
SaintCrazy: D-vid
NeedRunes4: Tammerath
D-vid: NeedRunes4
Kamak: D-vid
Cori: D-vid
Angelic: D-vid
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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:21 pm 
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Though I do agree with D-vid on how Rune switching his votes is strange, I'll vote to lynch D-vid. Beginning of this day he seemed expectant to have someone come up with an lynch vote, and continued to expect other people to start voting first. He could've looked into things himself and voted for whomever he thought was the most suspicious.


I'm not going to argue that that was his behavior, but my question is how that's supposed to make him mafia. I've been the exact same way out of respect for the fact that I'm one of the suspects. It's one of the reasons I haven't voted for anybody, and probably won't until a few more mafia members are taken out, and probably won't even vote today. In fact, it'd have been more indicative of mafia behavior were he to start right off the bat with the finger pointing and suspicions.

"He's been active in trying to figure out who's been mafia, but not actually suspecting anyone or starting any lynch parties! He's obviously mafia!"

There's gotta be something else.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:24 pm 
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Thank you Reyo. I've found these suspicions a bit silly from the beginning. And then my suspicion of Runes, who changed his vote 3 times during day 2 to the latest bandwagons gets called weird.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:34 pm 
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I'm changing my vote to undecided.

I know I kinda started this thing against D-vid but now some things don't line up.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:22 pm 
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Reyo wrote:
AngelicSongx wrote:
Though I do agree with D-vid on how Rune switching his votes is strange, I'll vote to lynch D-vid. Beginning of this day he seemed expectant to have someone come up with an lynch vote, and continued to expect other people to start voting first. He could've looked into things himself and voted for whomever he thought was the most suspicious.


I'm not going to argue that that was his behavior, but my question is how that's supposed to make him mafia. I've been the exact same way out of respect for the fact that I'm one of the suspects. It's one of the reasons I haven't voted for anybody, and probably won't until a few more mafia members are taken out, and probably won't even vote today. In fact, it'd have been more indicative of mafia behavior were he to start right off the bat with the finger pointing and suspicions.

"He's been active in trying to figure out who's been mafia, but not actually suspecting anyone or starting any lynch parties! He's obviously mafia!"

There's gotta be something else.

I don't think that mafia would be quite so obvious to do that. They did lose someone, so I don't think they'd be wanting to lose another. And I dunno, Reyo, even if you have been acting the same way I guess I just see you as a townie. Though, how are you going to take out more mafia members if you don't help vote? Unless you have a gun or something and are targeted at night suspecting won't get you very far. Although, I guess we can also fire guns too, but then they'd be defenseless at night unless the doctor saves whoever shot.

Well, we do have till the 29th, so I'm going undecided, too. Never have I ever been so indecisive in a mafia game. Also, Alec, why would we vote for you?

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:32 pm 
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I'm just trying to be hesitant since slob last lynch vote was my own. We were wrong in our assessment that because he was quiet, he was probably a mafia. We have more to go on and a little bit of wiggle room, so I'm being hesitant to try and resist what happened day 2, or at least have a little more to go on with who we lynch. Tat way. We have. A better chance. Of hitting a mafia member, and less a chance of the fact that we voted being a huge chunk of why the next person is lynched.

I agree that we need to look at the people who voted for slob, but I think it should only be a small percent of why, and I'm not terribly convinced that d-vid's hesitance to accuse people as a reason he's mafia. I understand your point that it'd be a bit obtuse to start the day off with accusations, but at the same time it'd be just as obtuse to assume that the mafia wouldn't at least by the end of the day. My personal opinion is that we look at people who both voted for slob yesterday, and have thrown around their good share of fingers, the earlier the better. That would instill more confidence that who we lynch will be mafia than going after d-vid for the reasons we are now.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:35 pm 
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Switch probably with definitely in my second sentence. He most definitely was probably mafia, just not definitely mafia.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:06 pm 
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This was an interesting test, but I'm changing my vote to undecided.

The fact that the votes stacked against D-vid so fast is very eerie.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:07 pm 
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I'm also increasingly suspicious of Cori and Angelic in light of this.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:37 pm 
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Kamak wrote:
I'm also increasingly suspicious of Cori and Angelic in light of this.


I don't really understand your reasoning for this. When I voted for someone based on my own suspicions, you pegged me as suspicious. When I listened to your logic and voted with you, you also pegged me as suspicious. I'm starting to feel like you're just trying to make me look bad :c I think I should have not listened to you and gone with my own suspicions.

With that said--you, Saint, and Angel all suddenly changing your votes is raising a red flag for me too. What's with the sudden change of heart?

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:49 pm 
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I'm changing it in light that we suddenly accumulated a bunch of votes as soon as lynching D-vid became feasible and as soon as I officially pointed the finger at him. If he turns out to be town, I can easily see a mafia coming out tomorrow to say that my claim to be innocent could be a farce and turn the town against me.

I can't speak for Saint or Angel (who I did not see take back her vote so I'm sorry for pointing the finger at her, auuuugh).

To be fair though, I'm also much more suspicious of Alec.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:12 am 
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Kamak wrote:
I'm also increasingly suspicious of Cori and Angelic in light of this.


Essentially this. I'm suspicious of several of the people who voted for D-vid, and it didn't make sense that they would side against him if he were mafia.

Unless he is actually mafia, and they just pulled some crazy reverse psychology crap.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
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Jesus, D-vid. If we survive this, you owe me, like, ALL of your Pokemon cards. Seriously.

Kamak, it seems like you're the official, unofficial leadership role. I'm not going to peg anyone specifically, but I'm guessing you have the best chance at getting anything done as far as a lynching party. My suggestion, given this recent turn of events, is we look at the votes for slob yesterday, d-vid today, and anyone who seemed overly suspicious of people earlier in the day. In my opinion, that'll probably be where we'll get the best chances at pegging a mafia member.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
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Kamak wrote:
I'm also increasingly suspicious of Cori and Angelic in light of this.


Essentially this. I'm suspicious of several of the people who voted for D-vid, and it didn't make sense that they would side against him if he were mafia.

Unless he is actually mafia, and they just pulled some crazy reverse psychology crap.


What you do is start a wagon on a fellow mafia member, and when it comes up they were mafia, everyone sees you as a hero because "mafia would never betray mafia". It happens A LOT with guns and gunsmiths to. A mafia member shoots another mafia member, and the town loves them forever. The screwed up thing is the sacrifice's consent is purely optional.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 3
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:45 am 
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I don't know about the D-Vid lynch speed. It seems to me less like the mafia all jumped in on my vote and more like the more active villagers jumped in and the mafia just sat back thanking that not enough village jumped in.
But again, tired and sick, I could be wrong.

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