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 Post subject: Re: TMI Thread [NSFW] Version 2.0 (Strictly Moderated)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:01 am 
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All of it? D:

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 Post subject: Re: TMI Thread [NSFW] Version 2.0 (Strictly Moderated)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:18 am 
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Syobon wrote:
I'm certainly not saying asexuals and sexuals shouldn't have relationships, I just want to give a heads-up that there will be issues that they need to resolve. Issues that I think are far from insurmountable if you have a healthy relationship to start with.

I'd tend to agree with you there, I mean, who wouldn't feel bad about themselves if they found themselves in a relationship where the sex was something that was only thrown in to make them pop flyin'? The idea of any sex in a relationship with an asexual makes me squeamish- I mean- somebody who wouldn't enjoy it. At all. But the idea of an abstinent relationship seems frustrating and difficult. I'm sure some people could work it out if they felt they really needed to, but it would be incredibly difficult.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:38 am 
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Asexuals can enjoy sex (though asexuality is a bit of a spectrum of feelings, and you should never try to assume an asexual's position on the matter), many just don't have a need for it. This isn't them giving you a pity fuck at their own expense, but rather they prefer to spend their time doing other things.

Basically, say you have a partner that loves to play golf. They really want to share that with you, but you don't really particularly care for golf. It's alright, but there's other things you'd rather do than play golf.

If you play golf with them, it's something that you can share and bond over. It's not a sacrifice to go and do it, since after all you don't hate playing golf, but rather it's something you do of your own free will to satisfy your partner.

Granted, sex isn't something to just give someone lightly to make them pop flyin', and the person has to feel comfortable giving sex to their partner (which, if they're someone that actually hates sex, they should probably not try to force themselves to deal with it). All the same though, asexuals as a whole aren't going to just leave you high and dry when it comes to sex, and if you're in a relationship with an asexual, you shouldn't feel guilty if they offer you sex (unless you really think they're uncomfortable about it). Just because they don't have as much need or want for it as you do, doesn't mean they don't partake in it of their own free will.

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 Post subject: Re: TMI Thread [NSFW] Version 2.0 (Strictly Moderated)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:40 am 
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What sex is, is a relative definition.

Think about that, people.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:53 am 
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Trygve is now Bill Clinton.

back to the other thing-
Wait- I thought asexuals felt no sexual attraction, wouldn't that imply they wouldn't ever enjoy sex? Or is it more complicated than that. I was running on the assumption that all asexuals are very serious about not ever wanting or enjoying se- since thats how other sexualities work. You can't make that gold metaphor for say, gay people having straight sex- so I'm not sure if actually disagree, or if I've made an incorrect assumtion somewhere along the line. Karnack does seem to understand what I mean though- since I did think it would've had to be some sort of weird pity-sex, but worse than that, since its not like rubbing your parts together would given help at all in this sort of sex- they'd just be... bored. Nobody else finds this scary?

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I think it's very rare that the nerves that make your genitals an erogenous zone would be gone or deformed, so I think almost all asexuals have at least the physical capacity to enjoy sex. They just don't have the hormones that push it as a need or something, or have a strong psychological aversion to sex.


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or they don't get it so they tell themselves they don't want it

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Head of The Brothel wrote:
or they don't get it so they tell themselves they don't want it

I it wasn't going to say it, since i want to be sensitive about the topic, but... that is kinda a thought I had. Since asexuals are the one orientation that just doesn't click in my mind.

I mean- it could be a lack of the right hormones- but wouldn't that make it a diagnosable medical condition?

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I doubt it's possible for any mammal to be truly asexual without some major genetic flaws. Reproduction is hard-coded into us, just like every other species. I think it makes sense for 'asexuality' to be caused by a low sex drive and self-caused oppression to sexual thoughts, for example. I can't see anyone not seeing at least someone as sexually attractive.

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Because I just don't. If there's a hot actor other people have to tell me she's hot, because she's just another woman to me. When there's an over-abundance of flirting and it's not a romantic comedy I just get annoyed because she's holding up the plot (Indiana Jones 2 for example). When cheerleaders come out in skimpy outfits while my dad is watching sports I breeze right past the room without so much as a glance. When I see pictures of females in skimpy armor I immediately think about how that wouldn't protect anyone, not their breasts or other accentuated features. I don't even get random boners out in public because there is no one I see in that kind of light to think about.

Asexuals can enjoy sex like anyone else, we just don't feel the need for it. I have masturbated before and decided that the brief moments of pleasure weren't worth the hours of effort. Where reproduction is hard-coded into everyone else it becomes just another activity to us. Breaking it down even further, there's a segment of asexuals who are aromantic, meaning they also feel no desire to even form a romantic relationship with anyone. I fall into that category. Saying I'm asexual because I haven't gotten any is stuck in your own mindset, without thinking that maybe I really just don't want any.

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i'm... so confused on why people are making asexuality into such a "but they should want sex!!!" issue. yeah maybe the person has hormone or mental issue or trauma or whatever, but some people just aren't interested in sex. and that is okay.

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Just because you don't gawk at every female you see doesn't make you asexual. Most of the time when people point out women they think are attractive to me I don't give a shit because that's not my preference, not because I'm asexual.

and random boners are "random" for a reason, sometimes they just happen

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Madican wrote:
the hours of effort


I mean this in the least offensive way, but you're either doing it wrong or you really have much less sensitive genitals. I'd estimate the first time would take about 5 minutes until you reach orgasm.


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 Post subject: Re: TMI Thread [NSFW] Version 2.0 (Strictly Moderated)
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Bacon wrote:
i'm... so confused on why people are making asexuality into such a "but they should want sex!!!" issue. yeah maybe the person has hormone or mental issue or trauma or whatever, but some people just aren't interested in sex. and that is okay.

I don't know why I have this issue myself to be honest! The whole concept just sort of baffles me! Sex is just something everyone wants! that is the thing that is supposed to be true! The want to fuck is something that can unify the entire human race! I'm not saying anything wrong with it necessarily, I just can't wrap my head around it!

Also, I'd tend to agree with princess brothel again.
...Also what Syobon said

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Five minutes while constantly trying to keep it up because I'm getting further and further disinterested and it keeps going down? That's how it was.

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