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I knew Obama would be it.

Not much expected from a president who has his own fan organization. 8)


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EVERYBODY HAS A FAN CLUB

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kinda exciting stuff to be living through. but he has a huge mess to clean up once he gets into office. i hope he's up to the challenge.

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Have I heard of a McCain for America Ad?


I. Don't. THINK SO. :psyduck:

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I don't really care. I mean, sure, he's black, but it's not like he has super-powers or anything.
I just think it's momentous because it's like, actual documented proof of a step forward in equality.
I guess, but it just seems a bit hypocritical making a huge deal about somebody being black, and at the same time promoting equality.
I'm not trying to do it in a negative light, but I see your point.

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I was thinking the same thing today.
Seriously? We just made history.
I'm sure this year and this election will be in the history books for who knows how long.

I'm really PO'd by the passing of prop 8 too. Who are we, telling who people can and can't marry? It's wrong.

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Miss StarSeed wrote:
First half-black president.

fixed.

also, i would've liked to have seen mccain win and then follow the policies he used to have instead of the mega-republican crap he had to do in order to win the nomination. good luck to obama and i hope he can actually bring about this change he says america needs, or a lot of people are gonna be really rustled.

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Who are we, telling who people can and can't marry? It's wrong.
That's quite a lofty statement. Think pedophilia, beastiality, necrophilia...


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I'm glad Obama won. I think it's a shame what this campaign has done to McCain. He used to be a Senator I had deep respect for, doing what he believd in and what was right regardless of what his party thought about it, but he seems to have redifined himself to be a typical dirty tricks, far right Republican in order to appeal to the conservative base. I just hope that he goes back to his old self now that he's lost. --Bucket, you posted while I was still writing this and beat me to it!

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I'm really PO'd by the passing of prop 8 too. Who are we, telling who people can and can't marry? It's wrong.

I can sort of see the point of people who say a church has the right to not perform or recognize or whatever a marriage, but marriage has its own unique financial and other benefits, like visitation rights and a slew of other stuff. I honestly don't care if it's called marriage or not, but all couples of marrying age should be able to get these same rights whether it's a civil union or an actual marriage or whatever. It's not a religious issue, it's a civil rights issue. I hope other states don't begin following CA's and the others' example. I'm not too worried though. The generation of most of the forum-goers here is much more supportive of gay rights than the generation in power right now.

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I'd rather here "Oh joy, Obama has a well thought-out, effective plan to establish democracy in Iraq within a year and fix the nation's economy!" than "Oh joy, Obama is the first african-american president!"

I mean, yeah, he's the first. But if America goes down the tubes during his presidency, is him being black going to make up for it? :?

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Spoony wrote:
doggonelydoggified wrote:
Who are we, telling who people can and can't marry? It's wrong.
That's quite a lofty statement. Think pedophilia, beastiality, necrophilia...
I lost.

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I'd rather here "Oh joy, Obama has a well thought-out, effective plan to establish democracy in Iraq within a year and fix the nation's economy!" than "Oh joy, Obama is the first african-american president!"

I mean, yeah, he's the first. But if America goes down the tubes during his presidency, is him being black going to make up for it? :?
I didn't want to shove my faith in Obama down people's throats; I've talked to quite a few people already that were in favour of McCain winning. I didn't mean to end up sounding so racist with all this... I just thought it was historic.

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Stu_Pidasl wrote:
I mean, yeah, he's the first. But if America goes down the tubes during his presidency, is him being black going to make up for it? :?


Yes.
He has powers.

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My faith in America has improved somewhat.

I'm also more ambivalent about humanity as a whole.

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I'm also more ambivalent about humanity as a whole.


You're part of it.

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Merlin wrote:
DoNotDelete wrote:
I'm also more ambivalent about humanity as a whole.


You're part of it.


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I'm just glad the McCain and Obama phone calls have stopped. I'm rustled about the Defense Budget cut.

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too bad he didn't make it this time..

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