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Let me rephrase: I think killing Flash is a great thing.

Also Maddox was awesome like...5 years ago. All he does now is hock his book and not update his site.


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Let me rephrase: I think killing Flash is a great thing.


I almost agree since now that Adobe owns flash instead of Macromedia they have no clue what they're doing, can't get it to work properly on Linux (though strangely identicle files will sometimes work on one site and not another, so perhaps this is partly a browser problem) and refuse to make it open source so people who actually know what they're doing can fix it!

...they also made the new Flash IDE look retarded.

RAAAAAAAAAGEEEE.

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Let me rephrase: I think killing Flash is a great thing.


I almost agree since now that Adobe owns flash instead of Macromedia they have no clue what they're doing, can't get it to work properly on Linux (though strangely identicle files will sometimes work on one site and not another, so perhaps this is partly a browser problem) and refuse to make it open source so people who actually know what they're doing can fix it!


So this is an issue of YOUR particular computer needs. The truth is that the open source/Linux/etc crowd is actually a very small minority when it comes to computers. The reason why so many people don't use Linux is because they wouldn't be able to use it. Don't get me wrong, I love open source development (I dual boot Ubuntu and Vista [don't ask] on my laptop, for example), but there's a time and a place for open source.

For example, I am the one that figures out what software my mom's going to need on her computer. I very rarely will download open source software onto it, and only if I'm going to be the only one using it.

I don't think that Flash will die (iPhone or no), and even if it does, I'm afraid of what will happen in the months (or possibly years) after that. What will replace it? Keep in mind that the internet is a place where universal change is nearly impossible. If Flash dies, how many replacements will you have to install just to get your favorite sites to work? With all its bad, the reason why Flash is great is because it's a standard. What happens when the standard goes away?

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Who fucking cares holy shit


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Several people, none of them with over a 100 posts, all arguing amongst themselves about flash.

This is amazing. *eats popcorn*

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Several people, none of them with over a 100 posts, all arguing amongst themselves about flash.


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That bucket is the wrong way around


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But then he would be stuck in the bucket


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I'm not sure what dick size has anything to do with knowledge of flash, but nonetheless, just because the ipad apparently doesnt have flash or whatever you are talking about, that obviously means that everyone else is gonna follow suit and get rid of a universally used program.....

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You missed the point but that's okay.

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I think its something to with that a bunch of people decided to start posting to discuss something totally irrelevant to the comic.

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this is nothing new.
why would anyone care


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So this is an issue of YOUR particular computer needs. The truth is that the open source/Linux/etc crowd is actually a very small minority when it comes to computers. The reason why so many people don't use Linux is because they wouldn't be able to use it. Don't get me wrong, I love open source development (I dual boot Ubuntu and Vista [don't ask] on my laptop, for example), but there's a time and a place for open source.

For example, I am the one that figures out what software my mom's going to need on her computer. I very rarely will download open source software onto it, and only if I'm going to be the only one using it.

I don't think that Flash will die (iPhone or no), and even if it does, I'm afraid of what will happen in the months (or possibly years) after that. What will replace it? Keep in mind that the internet is a place where universal change is nearly impossible. If Flash dies, how many replacements will you have to install just to get your favorite sites to work? With all its bad, the reason why Flash is great is because it's a standard. What happens when the standard goes away?


Flash is not a standard. Flash is a proprietary platform owned by Adobe. If you even want to work with Flash you have to buy the compiler from Adobe. If they want it to be a "standard" as you claim, they shouldn't lock it in. Sell the suite and support, give away or open up the compiler.

But that's besides the point. I don't "hate" Flash. I hate its inappropriate use in website design. Who here actually likes interactive Flash websites? All they do is tie up your computer, make it harder to get the information you want, and overall don't add to your experience. This isn't about what my "computer needs" are. This is about stopping something that is clearly bad for websites.

Now the Flash you think I'm talking about, where it's used as an animation suite, is fine and dandy. It's not the optimal solution for animation, but it lets you get the job done quickly and provides enough tools for animators.

Oh yeah this statement really got me: "If Flash dies, how many replacements will you have to install just to get your favorite sites to work?" None! That's the point. We shouldn't have to install a plugin to make websites work. Especially when all the tools to duplicate the functionality that Flash provides are already provided. The only exception is embedded video, although once WHATWG finalizes HTML5 there will be a way to duplicate that functionality as well.

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