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Fooflyer
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Well for more realistic stories, such as drama or anything mundane, that's usually what the antagonist is, an asshole that wants nothing more than to stir up the neighborhood.
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I prefer the bad guy to have some likable qualities. Don't get me wrong, I know a villian is supposed to be evil, but if they're a smug douchebag about it, it's more grating than enjoyable. Have something to like about the bad guy, not just have his entire personality just being a dick or a troll.

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I prefer the bad guy to have some likable qualities. Don't get me wrong, I know a villian is supposed to be evil, but if they're a smug douchebag about it, it's more grating than enjoyable. Have something to like about the bad guy, not just have his entire personality just being a dick or a troll.


Same.

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Miss StarSeed wrote:
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Why the hell should the antagonist be likable? It's the antagonist. He antagonizes. You're meant to hate him.
He's refering to the kind of antagonist that goes "I'm going to rob this bank just to fuck with people. I don't even need this cheddar. In fact, I'm going to just throw it in the river after I take it all." It's just being an evil douchebag.
You don't like the Joker?

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The Joker's likeable.

He's mentally insane and hilarious. And cynical.

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Fooflyer wrote:
that wants nothing more than to stir up the neighborhood.


got in one little fight and my mom got scared
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Odds wrote:
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that wants nothing more than to stir up the neighborhood.


got in one little fight and my mom got scared
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I'm more of the TAS Mark Hamill Joker than any of the others. I like the theatrical thing he has, and he acts like a real "joker" would. Thats just me though.

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Holy crap, SO agreed. o/

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You see, most antagonists DO have a lot of personality. Even those that are just "evil for evil's sake" have interesting backstories and their own quirks that make them dynamic. Only amatures fail to do this, unless it's intentional (See link below).

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Nice comic pimp there.

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That's why I like use of the application of the anti-villain and villain protagonist tropes. They're more interesting than "kick puppies and kittens for fun" antagonists.

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I like to use those types of villains for comedic purposes.

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So this is pretty much my new favorite comic...

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