Undertale - Featuring the comic, Sans! (also other people)

D-vid · **Posted:** Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:41 pm

Oh, I see, I have to kill everyone again to really kill everyone. Another time.

AquaBat · **Joined:** Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:26 pm **Posts:** 2373

TerraChimaera wrote:

Question: I read that you have to spare Flowey in the neutral ending to unlock the path for the true ending, but I killed him

Did I fuck up or

From what I've been hearing he's one of two characters that don't count against Pacifist. If you spare him he just berates you then mentions the other steps you gotta take to get the True Pacifist ending, killing him just means you don't hear that dialogue, I believe you can proceed as normal

D-vid wrote:

Oh, I see, I have to kill everyone again to really kill everyone. Another time.

That's not exactly what we were getting at.

SleepyRiri · **Joined:** Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:51 pm **Posts:** 100

I've played the demo of Undertale. My reaction to the demo is not really the point of this post. There is an info about the end of it (so, the end of the Ruins section) that I couldn't find anywhere but once (even on the wiki):
As everyone knows, the Toriel fight can be finished in multiple ways. What I couldn't find, are the conditions to make the bullets avoid you (which happened on my first run). The only place where it's written is here (someone writing how the demo went for them). As far as I'm aware, you have to use FIGHT and hit, and take damage until you have until 2HP left. At that point, Toriel should be sparing you, and killing her at that moment will make her say you're strong, which I think is different from doing FIGHT during a genocide run (killed her in 1hit) and from FIGHT when she's not attacking at all (obviously).

I just wanted that to be written somewhere on the internet OK??? Also, you may have more info, so that's another reason.

AquaBat · **Joined:** Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:26 pm **Posts:** 2373

Toriel will purposefully avoid you when your health reaches critical levels, ie taking a significant amount of damage, or after a few turns if you keep sparing her every turn, whichever comes first. It's right on the page you linked, too:

Quote:

As the player's health reaches critical levels, Toriel will stop an attack in progress, and purposefully avoid hurting you. She will only use one weaker attack where fireballs move away from the player's soul. However it is still possible to die in this fight, by losing all of your health before entering what is considered critical health. Sparing her repeatedly will result in her using her weak attack (even if the player is not in critical health) just before she stops attacking entirely.

Game Angel · **Posted:** Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:17 pm

TerraChimaera wrote:

Question: I read that you have to spare Flowey in the neutral ending to unlock the path for the true ending, but I killed him

Did I fuck up or

nope it doesnt matter.

and in other news, true pacifist run spoilers, ASRIEL. WHAT THE FUCK. JEEZ. WHAT BULLETS. WHWHWGHGHG

Rinoko · **Posted:** Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:41 am

Installed the game today and made it to Snowdin Town.

Yeah this game is as good as people are saying it is.

Invertin · **Joined:** Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:19 pm **Posts:** 65

The pacing of this game is genius.

Specifically the fact that it starts with Flowey and Toriel (to introduce the game and themes) and once the game starts proper

the FIRST thing it does is skeletons

and thus everyone fell in love immediately

SleepyRiri · **Joined:** Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:51 pm **Posts:** 100

AquaBat wrote:

Toriel will purposefully avoid you when your health reaches critical levels, ie taking a significant amount of damage, or after a few turns if you keep sparing her every turn, whichever comes first. It's right on the page you linked, too:

Oh, oops, I'm dumb.
I didn't see the Battle section of the wiki page because it's below a part of story-spoiling that's farther (in-game) than the battle.
She will not start avoiding you by merely sparing her, though. I guess she does weaken her attacks, but she will definitely not avoid until critical health. Which is actually fairly tricky if you haven't made her weaken her attacks first: her attacks hurt a lot, and reaching 2HP with her strong attacks is basically a RNG shot.

Bappie · **Posted:** Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:33 am

More Sans Pun.

D-vid · **Posted:** Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:05 am

AquaBat wrote:

TerraChimaera wrote:

Question: I read that you have to spare Flowey in the neutral ending to unlock the path for the true ending, but I killed him

Did I fuck up or

From what I've been hearing he's one of two characters that don't count against Pacifist. If you spare him he just berates you then mentions the other steps you gotta take to get the True Pacifist ending, killing him just means you don't hear that dialogue, I believe you can proceed as normal

D-vid wrote:

Oh, I see, I have to kill everyone again to really kill everyone. Another time.

That's not exactly what we were getting at.

Well it means I didn't fuck up yet, no?
I started a second playthrough and everything looks fine, the flower is gone and I had a hot date with a cool dude.

Bappie · **Posted:** Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:04 am

There's no point guessing what we're getting at, it's a super spoiler.
Just know that you'll see exactly what we mean when you finish your true pacifist run.

I'm still waiting patiently for your reaction.

D-vid · **Posted:** Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:51 am

Only thing I could see going wrong is Sans remembering I annihilated everything in my path on my last run and being creepy again.

TerraChimaera · **Posted:** Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:09 am

This game has some pretty rocking music, btw

ASGORE is my fave track ever

D-vid · **Posted:** Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:51 am

Oh god, becoming friends with Undyne is freaking hilarious.

Spinda · **Posted:** Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:56 am

this game is fucking amazing, holy hell, I only beat it twice and I think that's enough.

I'll never do Genocide though because that'd break my heart.

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