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 Post subject: Re: Everybody's Gay: LGBTQA Support Thread
PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:36 pm 
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I hear in Seattle, Amazon Prime is starting to offer 1 and 2-hour deliveries.

If the couriers don't have vehicles with "Planet Express" stickers all over, I will be very disappointed.

Amazon confirmed gay as fuck

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 Post subject: Re: Everybody's Gay: LGBTQA Support Thread
PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:14 pm 
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Amazon confirmed gay as fuck


Does that mean they're up for a little experimentation?

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 Post subject: Re: Everybody's Gay: LGBTQA Support Thread
PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:18 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Everybody's Gay: LGBTQA Support Thread
PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:28 pm 
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I just thought you'd like to know...

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 Post subject: Re: Everybody's Gay: LGBTQA Support Thread
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:29 am 
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That makes me chuckle. The first thing I thought of (after immediately recognizing that image) was of a troll in a dungeon. By dungeon, I mean a BDSM dungeon, and by troll, I mean those folks who try their best to piss people off via internet.

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 Post subject: Re: Everybody's Gay: LGBTQA Support Thread
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:01 pm 
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2 hour prime is nice but after being in Seattle for a year and seeing what's happening to Capitol Hill (LGBT+ friendly neighborhood) is say fuck that place. Gay related hate crimes have gone up in that area since amazon/facebook/others have moved in. Gentrification is a shifty thing y'all

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 Post subject: Re: Everybody's Gay: LGBTQA Support Thread
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:17 pm 
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Oh man, I've been itching to have a discussion about gentrification for awhile, but I'm not sure this thread is the right place and I'm not sure it could be discussed well outside of taboo topics...

Or if anyone besides maybe the two of us care/know much about gentrification to warrant a good discussion...

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 Post subject: something about being fancy i assume
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:04 pm 
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I'll bite, what is that thing you said?

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 Post subject: Re: Everybody's Gay: LGBTQA Support Thread
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:26 pm 
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I am also curious.
(but I posted mainly to point out the maybe Futurama quote made by Exeres)


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 Post subject: Whoo politics!
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:00 pm 
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I'll bite, what is that thing you said?


Gentrification is the process of adding value to a neighborhood or location in general that ends up driving out the local population and/or businesses in favor of new (and almost always wealthy) individuals, which often destroys what made the area appealing to begin with. It can start with something as simple as a convenience store or a wal-mart/target/etc. opening in the area, which intrinsically makes the area a bit more valuable to live in. It usually happens in run-down areas because the land is cheaper and there are more options to dress up and fix some of the problems (deteriorating buildings, crime, etc.), though it can also occur in places that are experiencing major growth (a bit of what's happening in my area of Texas).

Easiest way to describe the effect is the episode of South Park where rich people discover the town and how quaint it is, and decide to move in en masse. At first, the citizens are pop flyin' about the new wealth and faces moving into the town, but eventually they get fed up with the changes made to the town and try to find a way to go back to how things used to be. Alternatively, imagine what happens to mom-and-pop shops when big business appears in town, which is a business version of gentrification.

When gentrification is occurring, it's hard to stop. The inherent value that was placed into the community not only drives up prices for vacant homes in the area, which means that ethnic neighborhoods often become too expensive for those in that ethnic group to even move into new homes, but there's also pressure from within the changing community to push out individuals who have been there much longer. Apartment complexes get bought out and renovated, raising rent that forces families out, property taxes and value increase, neighborhood associations are formed and older residents are forced to abide by their newly formed rules or face sanctions, and sometimes the cost of living just outstrips the income of the people living in the area.

In the most optimistic sense, urban gentrification is a good thing. No one would be against tearing down a run down building that's been out of commission for 20+ years to put a pharmacy or a doctor's office or even a grocery store in that would make things more convenient (and maybe even cheaper) for the residents of a lesser loved area. The reality is that things don't often stop at that. The changes don't tend to happen overnight, but in 10-20 years an entire community can be so utterly changed and sanitized into "Smalltown USA" (though this issue is definitely not limited to the US), that not only do we lose some heritage and culture from the area, but the people we tried to help to begin with end up being forced back to living how they used to before anyone ever intervened to help their area. The only difference is the place they grew up and lived their lives and raised their families effectively no longer exists.

The time scale can seem a bit large, and it's easy to think that communities naturally progress and change anyways, but think about the fact that if you were starting Kindergarten when this happened, your community that you grew up in could be gone by the time you reached high school or ended up married in your mid 20's. I personally grew up in a town whose population between the 2000 and 2010 census went up by over 500%.

It's a complicated issue.

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 Post subject: Re: Everybody's Gay: LGBTQA Support Thread
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:35 am 
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Am I too late to introduce myself to this?

Pansexual & transgender with a side of demiromance. Joined the board before I knew any of these things but have been getting a lot of answers outta myself now that I'm beyond a certain...rough patch is lightly put, but it works.

[I am absolutely not getting in to talking about gentrification, I have nothing to contribute to that; Simply don't know enough. Just sayin' hi.]

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 Post subject: Re: Whoo politics!
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:15 am 
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Kamak wrote:
Explanation of gentrification


I don't quite understand how this connects to sexuality and gender issues unless poverty and wealth become sexual orientations.

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 Post subject: Re: Everybody's Gay: LGBTQA Support Thread
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:27 am 
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The only real way it connects relates to what Chopstix says. In dressing up the area and making it more desirable, the new folks that come into the community can be anti-gay/trans/etc. making the place less safe for the original residents in a much more accepting and diverse area.

Part of why I felt it didn't necessarily belong here but didn't know where else to put it for the time being.

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 Post subject: Re: Everybody's Gay: LGBTQA Support Thread
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:41 am 
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Oh, I see.

I'm not quite sure what this thread covers, but if you want to discuss gentrification in general, I don't think this is the place, as it doesn't necessarily affect sexuality and such. Gentrification that does affect sexuality is probably fine, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Everybody's Gay: LGBTQA Support Thread
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:15 pm 
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While I understand the concern, there's no real need to mini-mod, Petah. I saw the conversation taking place, and it was just an organic extension of the conversation in progress so it's not much of a big deal. if it went to far off the rails that woulda been another story, but in this case it's not too big a deal.

Anyhoo please continue the gay.

Commence the gay.

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