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 Post subject: Re: Haunch Hunch
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:48 am 
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I'm also hoping people realize that "chopping off your legs and replacing them with robot legs" to combat g-forces pushing your blood out of your head doesn't fix the problem as the blood will still leave your head and go to your stumpy legs and torso.

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Are you a doctor, like, medical human people doctor?
The human blood circulation system - I don't know how English people call it, probably Joey - is subdivided in two parts. One part serves the head, the other part serves the whole torso, arms and legs. Obviously they aren't completely seperated and the same blood stream flows through both, but it does have some effect on how efficiently your heart can pump blood into whereever.
Aside of that, the lack of legs reduces the travel length of the blood stream. When your blood is pushed out of your head into your legs, there's more blood mass to move over a longer distance than when you don't have legs. No legs makes it easier to pump the blood back up into your head: Less blood to move over a shorter distance. Remember physics: E = m * g * h, energy is mass times gravity factor times height. Less height, less energy needed. Furthermore, E = m * v, energy is mass times velociraptor.

I'm not a doctor, neither medical human people doctor nor doctor of computer science since I stopped after my bachelor's degree. My current profession is to make up things and post them on the internet. Have a nice day (:

PS: Yes I should've drawn some illustrations to support my made-up thesis of how removing your legs does indeed allow for time travel.

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 Post subject: Re: Haunch Hunch
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:19 am 
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Reno wrote:
I'm also hoping people realize that "chopping off your legs and replacing them with robot legs" to combat g-forces pushing your blood out of your head doesn't fix the problem as the blood will still leave your head and go to your stumpy legs and torso.

/killjoy

Are you a doctor, like, medical human people doctor?
The human blood circulation system - I don't know how English people call it, probably Joey - is subdivided in two parts. One part serves the head, the other part serves the whole torso, arms and legs. Obviously they aren't completely seperated and the same blood stream flows through both, but it does have some effect on how efficiently your heart can pump blood into whereever.
Aside of that, the lack of legs reduces the travel length of the blood stream. When your blood is pushed out of your head into your legs, there's more blood mass to move over a longer distance than when you don't have legs. No legs makes it easier to pump the blood back up into your head: Less blood to move over a shorter distance. Remember physics: E = m * g * h, energy is mass times gravity factor times height. Less height, less energy needed. Furthermore, E = m * v, energy is mass times velociraptor.

I'm not a doctor, neither medical human people doctor nor doctor of computer science since I stopped after my bachelor's degree. My current profession is to make up things and post them on the internet. Have a nice day (:

PS: Yes I should've drawn some illustrations to support my made-up thesis of how removing your legs does indeed allow for time travel.



I'm personally not, but a friend of mine is currently doing his resident work, and we yap about hypotheticals like this a lot.

You're correct, it would lessen the impact, however, remember, the issue with a blackout is that enough blood leaves your brain that consciousness is lost(a redout being where all the blood rushes to your head, which is also an event in high-g maneuvers that chopping your legs off won't fix.

So it's not that "all your blood runs to your legs", but "enough blood runs to your legs so that not enough blood is in your brain to keep higher functions running". Chopping off ones legs would indeed give comparatively less area for the blood to flow, but I would point out that modern flight suits not only have the pressure bladders(used to combat blood moving where it shouldn't) on the calves - which is the region amputated in the theory - but also the thighs and lower torso.

So removing only a third of the problematic cavity that blood could flow wouldn't be anywhere enough to properly mitigate loss of blood to the brain(or, again, too much). It may well be enough to raise the g-force threshold before it begins to happen, but it wouldn't be a substantial difference, I don't think.


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 Post subject: Re: Haunch Hunch
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:04 am 
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Reno wrote:
You're correct, it would lessen the impact, however, remember, the issue with a blackout is that enough blood leaves your brain that consciousness is lost(a redout being where all the blood rushes to your head, which is also an event in high-g maneuvers that chopping your legs off won't fix.

So would you agree that chopping off the head instead would solve the gravitational issues?

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 Post subject: Re: Haunch Hunch
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Although, I don't consider the new ones cannon because the old ones make more sense: "They use prosthetic legs to prevent blood loss from the G-force of the starships". I don't know how they explain how they do it in the new ones.

I think that got retconned with Starfox 64, however. For instance, Falco panics when there's something wrong with the G-Diffuser.

Wait

Wait wait wait wait wait

WAIT

You're telling me that a G-Diffuser is an actual thing that diffuses G forces, to explain why they don't need prosthetic legs any more in Star Fox 64 and onward? It's not just nonsensical technobabble!? Holy shit my mind is BLOWN


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 Post subject: Re: Haunch Hunch
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...lurker here to interrupt this fascinating discourse (by god please continue) to say that this comic hits sooooo close to home--I STILL haven't figured out how to stuff my digitigrade clothes-wearing freaks into shoes. Putting human legs on them is sooo tempting, jesus.

also I really like how Fox is drawn in this yes yes

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 Post subject: Re: Haunch Hunch
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Fox aside, I appreciate how Katie draws Samus awesome and muscular.


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Caiman wrote:
...lurker here to interrupt this fascinating discourse (by god please continue) to say that this comic hits sooooo close to home--I STILL haven't figured out how to stuff my digitigrade clothes-wearing freaks into shoes. Putting human legs on them is sooo tempting, jesus.

Would you say it's problematic for you?

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 Post subject: Re: Haunch Hunch
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I love how chill Fox looks in this comic. I mean, in StarFox Adventures he was rather smug if not a little arrogant. But here he totally breaks the barrier between how you depict a "average joe" and "hero who saves galaxy multiple times"

But then again, even super heroes like to laze and act like normal people. Even Super Villains, seeing as Darkseid (An evil DC comics god) when he wants give certain characters unexpected visits, he enters their homes and wait for them to arrive, while sitting casually in a armchair for some reason.

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 Post subject: Re: Haunch Hunch
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Previous wrote:
Reno wrote:
You're correct, it would lessen the impact, however, remember, the issue with a blackout is that enough blood leaves your brain that consciousness is lost(a redout being where all the blood rushes to your head, which is also an event in high-g maneuvers that chopping your legs off won't fix.

So would you agree that chopping off the head instead would solve the gravitational issues?


Indeed. We must remove the cranial protrusion immediately if our pilots are going to fly safely!

And yeah, as Shradow pointed out, I like muscled Samus. Honestly, I'd be 100% keen on a comic with the smash characters being 100% domestic, haha.

I'm also plotting out a ....Not-wi edit, but I'm curious of Locke will beat me to it.


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 Post subject: Re: Haunch Hunch
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Did nobody acknowledge my Game Theory joke?

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Was it that bad?


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BlazeVortex4231 wrote:
Did nobody acknowledge my Game Theory joke?

BlazeVortex4231 wrote:
But that's just a theory.

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A GAME TH-


Was it that bad?

Personally I find very few things get acknowledged here if Ruby's not around; it's okay though, in this case it was probably partially because someone beat you to the joke. Have a nice day!

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in this case it was probably partially because someone beat you to the joke. Have a nice day!
My baaaaad.



Anyway, everyone. I have a confession to make.

The "Legless Fox" edit was me being lazy and only posting a half-finished edit. (Based on Katie's paragraph below the page.)

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There. Finished.
LEGS ARE THE MOST EVIL THING TO DRAW IN THE UNIVERSE. (Next to hands.)
Maybe no one will notice that I forgot to put shadows behind the legs in the first two panels!


Also, just for fun:

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 Post subject: Re: Haunch Hunch
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Changing the subject, but Shouldn't Samus's two piece be blue Fusion one? The Orange one is the one with the Triangle hole.


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 Post subject: Re: Haunch Hunch
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:45 am 
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She probably keeps a closet full of those things with minor variations.

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 Post subject: Re: Haunch Hunch
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samus is the last person that can complain about fucked up anatomy, isn't she like, part chozo (space bird) part metroid (pure energy eating space thing) and a little X parasite (shape shifting jelly thing). the fact she still looks completely human is amazing.


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