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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:56 am 
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I especially went for the line of action in my pose pieces, though your example is good, I like that for mine it flows from the sword, into the body, and then into the monster, I think it mentally represents that the sword is swinging in that direction.
The biggest difference between your pose and princess brothel's example redo is B's pose exudes power and strength in form. You may have a flow of lines, but it leaves the image looking weak. There is no emphasis behind her movement. You shouldn't even need action lines to convey that her sword is swinging (also your action lines are incorrect and only leave the viewer confused as to where the sword is going - EDIT: Upon further review, it's moreso that the action lines and the curve of the sword are very conflicting).

Flow isn't always a line going from top to bottom. Sometimes it curves back around.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:10 pm 
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I edited and fixed a few things, and added a lot more to my original post.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:57 am 
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I've been mucking around with music a bit lately, here's my most recent bit. Keep in mind I'm very new to music, and this was the first time I had ever even gave a passing thought to chord progressions. I know the one I went with is overdone to hell and back, but I chose it to give myself as large a cushion as possible.
All feedback greatly appreciated, since I don't know enough about music to recognize my mistakes like I can with visual art.
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I've been drawing a bit too, but there's nothing really worth posting.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:37 pm 
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that sounds like it'd fit with a castle area in an rpg game, except for the claps and whatever sounds you're using for the melody. the rise and fall of the notes in the music, along with that drum are almost military in rhythm.

lots of room for improvement, to put it lightly. lookin forward to hearing more

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:51 pm 
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YCobb wrote:
All feedback greatly appreciated, since I don't know enough about music to recognize my mistakes like I can with visual art.
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(I'm not sure how much notation stuff you know already, so if you need me to explain anything better, let me know)
Well, you based it on the I-IV-V-I chord progression (C-F-G-C), which is the strongest chord progression in a tonal (not funky) major key, so that's nice and solid, but those were bodaciously the only chords you included as far as I heard. The title of it suggests that it's supposed to be something that's really easy to have on repeat for an extended period of time, so repetition is good to an extent, yes, but I would say that for your next piece, or if you decide to do another draft of this one, include a little more variety. Since your piece has no words to provide variety like in a pop song, you need your actual music to provide the variation, which makes it a little harder for a non-vocal piece to get a way with the "only 3 chords" trick. However, your melodic layering within those three chords is very nice, I thought.

Even if you're making a cheerful song, it's okay to have a minor chord thrown in there. Major scales have three minor chords in them: ii, iii, vi (or in the key of C: d, e, a), and even a diminished triad in the vii (b dim). My personal suggestion is that in major-based tunes, throwing a "vi-V-I" progression instead of a "IV-V-I" for a cadence (the point where after a few measures, the music sounds like it settles), is nice. It would work best if you framed the six in a more major-ish way. Like a vi chord (ACE) has two notes in common with a I chord (CEG). So you could have the "major side" of the vi chord come first (CEA), repeat the pattern on the V chord (BDG) and then do whatever you want on the I. But again, that's just a suggestion.



I'm still getting the hang of percussion myself, so I'm less able to give composing techniques on this, but it just seemed a little bit unfinished. like maybe switch it up every other repeat or phrase (phrases in music are clean start-finish sections of a song, in yours they're every 4 measures). Add an extra little line here, or maybe replace that instrument with this one, or add a couple more hits into those two beats so that they're eighth notes instead of half notes.


It was a fun piece, though! Really, well, cheery, and what you had was solid, but I feel like it could have been about half the length. I hope to see you come up with more stuff and think it will be cool to watch you improve!


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 Post subject: Re: Art Thread
PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:40 pm 
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I know a bit about notation, but it's not like I ever properly learned it. I think I get the gist of what you're saying, though.
I'll definitely mix up the chords more next time around, I got the same feedback from another person I asked. (Interestingly, he praised the chord progression of an older song I showed him, for which I hadn't even considered chords?)
I chose the I-IV-V-I progression half because it's the only one I know (because people always complain about it, whoops~) and because I assumed it would be the best safety net to make sure things still sounded passable, so I'm glad that worked out. Since doing this, now that I realize what a chord progression is (I always assumed it was the literal sequence of notes and/or that proper songs never let an instrument play only a single note at once, both of which I knew seemed completely wrong) I've been able to pick out chords in other music so I think I'll have a much better feel for it next go-round.

Yeah, drumlines always give me trouble. About eighth notes in the drum line, is that really advisable? I was under the impression that the drumline was what best indicated the song's BPM and therefore set the tempo, so it was best to stick with whatever fits the time signature as the most common period for it?
I can definitely hear why it should be switched up, though.

Thanks for your feedback! Would it be alright if I asked you more specific questions some time, through PM perhaps?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:00 pm 
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Yeah, hit me up on the PM.

People who are raised on western music subconsciously count either "123 123" or "1234 1234" depending on the song, and can figure out the tempo unless the piece is specifically written to deviate from that pattern. Adding some eighth notes in there won't kill that. Drumlines would all be booooooring if they only went with the strict, undivided meter.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:32 am 
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Page from a comic I've been working on with a friend.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:51 am 
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I love how clean the lines are.
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 Post subject: Re: Art Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:22 pm 
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I very much love those clean lines too, yes



In other news, I made some figurines (albeit not such clean ones)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:52 am 
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it's decently sized

i got an intuos pro for christmas, so i asked a friend what i should draw and she said princess pug and kitten kicking booty and i decided that meant full on medieval style

i'm gonna color it so this isn't even close to done, just linework came out nice enough for me to look at and go "hey wow i actually like that"

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 Post subject: Re: Art Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:14 am 
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awesome love the style













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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:07 pm 
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Testing colors out for something.
Once I'm pop flyin' with this, I'm going to color the physical original with water color. Any feedback?

I'm got a few things I'm already planning on, like making the trees cast shadows on the ground like the rocket does, possibly changing the color of the rock, and making the flowers a more vibrant color.

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 Post subject: Re: Art Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:20 pm 
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The single source of red in the center of the picture traps my eye. While it's not a bad thing to have a clear focal point, I think incorporating splashes of red elsewhere in the picture will help keep the viewer's eye moving instead of becoming stuck in the center.

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