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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:47 am 
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you didn't run PAST the mushroom parents?
they have the health of early bosses and they hit harder than almost all the bosses, period


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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:49 am 
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Can't exactly run when you land, stumble, and immediately have a mushroom man haymaker you into oblivion.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:50 am 
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roll when you land

right

you know just mashing the roll button when you fall and negating the fall damage animation?

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:51 am 
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Not when you fall from really high up. Not enough to die but a tap'll do ya.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:56 am 
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oh i thought you were just taking regular falls



well the lesson here is "stop falling"

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:26 pm 
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There we go, linked the fire. Now to fall into a coma until DaSII comes out. Or play DeS.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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But linking the fire is the bad ending.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:29 pm 
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Right and letting the fire go out is a good thing.

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In the long run yes it is. Linking the fire gives power back to the same gods who abandoned humanity and manipulated the Chosen Undead into believing that by sacrificing themselves they will end the curse of the undead. It doesn't. The fire will wane again eventually and the cycle will repeat. All linking the fire does is delay the inevitable.

The Age of Darkness, letting the fire go out, is the Age of Man. The curse of the undead is broken, the gods have no more power, and time stops becoming distorted. Humanity is left to rule itself with all the responsibility that comes with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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Curse of the Undead? You mean the Darksign?

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That's the sign of the curse, yes.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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By not linking the flame the Abyss will spread
if you've played the Artorias of the Abyss DLC you know what happens because of that.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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we don't actually know that the abyss spreads because of darkness, and we DO know for a fact that the dark ending doesn't cure the darksign, neither ending does, and nobody really says it will. we know that darkness is part of the abyss, but lets look at what we know
The Abyss spreads in Oolicile because they wake up Manus. Artorias goes in, and gets corrupted by it, saves Sif, and then you kill him. You stop Manus, and also stop the abyss by proxy.
The Abyss DOSEN'T spread into New Londo. They flood it not to keep the Abyss at bay, but to seal the Darkwraiths and Four Kings.
So, it seems, that the Abyss doesn't spread naturally, but Manus tries to spread it.
There is also the fact that Artorias is corrupted, but not you. Artorias is not human, he's one of whatever kind of race the gods are. Meaning, he's more than likely a creature of light, much like Gwyn.
You, however, are the only undead to set foot in the Abyss. You are not corrupted by it. This COULD mean that humanity is particularly resistant to dark, as humanity itself is parts of the Dark Soul. It could also just mean you never really spend a lot of time there.
But once again, there's no real evidence that the Abyss normally spreads.

The Link The Fire ending is basically horrible and just a continuation of the cycle, but the Dark Lord ending is very ambiguous even with the DLC. You just don't have much clue what's going to happen. There are certain things that are true, such as that humans are affiliated with the dark, gods are affiliated with light, and saving one race kills the others. Otherwise, we don't have much to go on regarding exactly what happens. We're not even entirely sure that the Abyss is bad because of the darkness, or because of some other eldrich horror involved with it being a pit of infinite black.
Personally I think that if the cycle is to continue, the Abyss would become the underground, while the above world would not become dark, but grey, like when the Dragons ruled. But that's just me.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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pretty much galaxy. i especially agree with the last bit

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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Manus spreads the Abyss. Manus is likely the Dark Lord.
If you choose the Dark Lord end you become the Dark Lord and spread the Abyss.
The Undead are not immune to the Abyss taint because all the people in Oolacile were corrupted (except Dusk) and turned into the Bloated Head hollows.
Both endings are bad ends.

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