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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:56 pm 
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unless they're decent

and know not to give you the opportunity to parry

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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And you can say the same thing with backstabs.
If they're good they won't let you back stab them.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:00 pm 
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actually very often, the very act of attacking sets you up for a backstab, in fact most times

the same can't be said for parrying

backstabs can be unavoidable

parries are very easily avoidable

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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Unless you enjoy using a weapon that doesn't take four and a half years to attack.
Or magic.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:04 pm 
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if you're fighting a high-dex character you don't necessarily want the backstab or riposte anyways because if their attacks are too quick to put them in a situation for a backstab, they'll be too quick to consistently parry unless you have the reflexes of god and the person isn't already trying to backstab you

but if you have the reflexes of a god then it's still easier to just backstab them and you're still putting yourself in danger trying to parry


and magic is broken to all shit in dark souls
this is not a fact up for dispute everyone knows it

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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Sorry I can't hear you over all this great chaos fireballing persuers.

And even if they have quick attacks if you're poise is high enough you can try and riposte them so they know better than to rush you. They're too fast for you to hit if you're trying to tank their attacks and counter.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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Except if they're too fast for you they're not attacking your front, they're attacking behind you.

It's a part of the PvP that riposte is worthless unless your opponent is super heavy and super stupid, and even then the backstab is a much better choice.

And if you have a lot of poise you're running high strength, and you shouldn't really be trying to riposte

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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Fair enough I've run out of words to use so I'm just going to go to the funny picture thread where people actually apreciate a good riposte.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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Galaxy Man wrote:
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but but

that shield is so good for parries, and the knife is so good for backstabbu


when you have a good dex character you don't parry, you just backstab, and for a reason

parries require you to be still for a moment, find an opening, and hit at just the right time

backstabs just require you to be fast and find an opening

parries are worthless when you can backstab

I do 1500 damage with a parry from my ricard's rapier with Darkmoon blade
I do like 960 with a backstab
Backstabs are harder to get than parries

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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Wrong video dumbass.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:32 pm 
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Malum wrote:
Backstabs are harder to get than parries


see this is an intrinsically wrong thing to say

unless you're not talking PvP, in which case it doesn't matter, do either, enemies are stupid

but in PvP people tend to be sure to avoid giving someone the chance BECAUSE of the parry

edit: i'm sorry, i don't see that going on for the whole song
i may be wrong but if i'm not it proves worthless for gloating

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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Oh hey I learned that when you us ePyromancies you're not supposed to be locked onto enemies.
Maybe I'll kill things now.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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Galaxy Man wrote:
Malum wrote:
Backstabs are harder to get than parries


see this is an intrinsically wrong thing to say

unless you're not talking PvP, in which case it doesn't matter, do either, enemies are stupid

but in PvP people tend to be sure to avoid giving someone the chance BECAUSE of the parry

I'm talking about PvP. Backstabs are harder to get because of lag, parries are easier to get because of lag. The window for parries is longer, and if they don't attack as often and play it safe it's much easier to predict when they'll go for the attack. If they spam wildy you can tank one hit and parry the other (assuming you have some poise, if you don't what the hell are you trying to tank hits for)
Backstabs CAN be good, but ripostes are much better for a reason.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark/Demon's Souls
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see parries are for npc's, backstabs are for players.

backstabbing is good for when you first start out but if you can nail a parry it does alot more damage than a backstab and that can seal a deal on a close fight. but some enemies cant be parried (and some cant be backstabbed) so it all depends on your situation

both are good in equal ways

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