AWKWARD ZOMBIE

How does no one look at the statue of liberty. WHY DOES NO ONE CARE THE STATUE OF LIBERTY IS JUST STANDING THERE IN FRONT OF SOME HOUSE SUDDENLY.

1.The preferred method of killing of angels always was letting you live yourself to death by zapping you back. The ones in that one episode were snapping necks because... I can't remember. They were too weak to time zap?
2. I have no idea how angel reproduction works. There are baby angels though.
3. plothole for cool images
4. dunno how high it's supposed to be
5. Dunno.
6. because it did a horrible job at sending them off. At least from the doctor's perspective.
7. Dunno which scene you mean
8. Cause it's Rory.
9. Not necessarily forgotten but the Doctor is just easily swayed in his decisions I have the feeling. Good feelings and bad feelings clashing and stuff. Also from the signs we see on the Tardis and everything, centuries could easily have passed between those two episodes for the Doctor.
10. To write the book? Time loops are a weird thing.
11. Cause SUDDEN DRAMA!

The only point you may have there is the first one, and even then it's still not a good point because the inconsistency is so jarring.

As for 7, it was posted somewhere back in the thread. It never made it out of storyboarding, but it was a man handing a letter to Rory's dad from Rory, explaining what happened and that the guy giving the letter was Rory's son (I think)

EDIT: It was this scene, posted a few days or so after the episode was released I think

I think it was explained in the episode somewhere why those angels didn't use their usual MO.

And point 9 is also a valid point I'd say. He likes being with others. He hates being lonely. But he also hates when he is left by the ones accompanying him.
He tried to solve this problem in a very dumb manner, by not ever having companions again. Well you've seen what happened. We've seen it before too. We always came to the conclusion "The doctor being without a companion for too long is not good for him". Now taking everything from the Snowmen in, it could have been decades to centuries since the last episode. Probably tried to stay out of people's ways as much as possible. And then suddenly souffle girl appears who is basically perfect companion material. Doesn't listen, is curious, smart and brave. Doesn't just ignore this weird person, tricks him even into not erasing her memory. It sparks in him something he tried to shut out for possibly centuries resulting in this conflict in him. Trying to keep up the uncaring attitude but falling back to what he actually wants to be like throughout the episode. It's pretty well done actually in my opinion. Maybe a bit too sudden in some places but overall you get the point that he actually wants a companion, he just built this wall around him so he won't feel that grief again.

I'd say it was around 100 years give or take since he states that he's like 1000+ in 'The Snowmen' and last I remember he said he was like 900 with the ponds.

I don't see the angels being too weak to time zap someone in that episode since they basically say that they're using a hotel and just throwing people in there and keeping them as a giant battery for all the angels in Manhattan. I think they only killed the 1 dude because he was torturing that one angel that he had locked up.

They need to give the Doctor a more concrete reason as to why he wants a new companion after swearing off them again. Before it was because they basically forced their way into his lives but with Oswin he was kind of like "Hey I like you want to come with me" and when she was dying was when he was set on her as a companion. I don't remember her actively trying to hitch a ride on the Tardis like Amy or Donna. So it makes it kind of weak reasoning when he is avoiding her and pushing her away and then he's suddenly all for her after 20 minutes because she said the word "Pond" when she was REFERRING TO AN ACTUAL POND

I meant the episode with River and that place with all the withered statues until the Doctor was like "Oh no, I'm so stupid! The race of this planet had 2 heads!" And all the withered statues turned out to be half dead angels. The episode where Rory is erased from existence. They broke the people's necks.

The reason he wants a companion is simple. He's lonely. He swore off them only to not get hurt again. But it's like a teenager with a broken heart saying he's never going to fall in love again. He can say it but it's not going to work. This whole thing was a pivot point of the 10th Doctor. His loneliness. His feelings and longings. He seems a bit emotionally inept. He is really bad at close personal relationships as the doctor. He doesn't want to let people get too close to him because he knows he is going to lose them one way or another. Which of course is not working because that's just how feelings work even for a Time Lord. And in "Human Nature" when he gets the full life of a human him he doesn't even want to turn back into the almost immortal universe saver he is. He wants those feelings, with every fiber of his being. That is made absolutely clear. Just sometimes he doesn't want to admit that to himself.

His age should actually be 1200+ since he was... 1103? when he was not shot by River. I think he said "over 1000 years".

I rewatched the very first episode of the old series. And it seems he starts reverting to the character of the first doctor when he's alone too long. Untrusting to everyone he doesn't know. Feeling above everything. The first Doctor was really full of himself.

The Christmas episode was good.


But why couldn't the Doctor just turn the TARDIS vertical and catch Oswin a la River Song?

He watched Oswin fall to her death. To run into the TARDIS and catch her before she landed would have been entering his own timestream and seen himself or something like that?

It still doesn't matter if all of his decisions and time and the consequences of his actions are offscreen. We missed 100+ years of his life, including the time he actually made the choice. The only reason we know it's even a thing is because someone else told us.

Absolutely all of that development was offscreen and will most likely never be mentioned again, or visited. It was completely and utterly pointless. We spent no time seeing the Doctor in this mood, and snapped immediately to the end.
I'm not saying show us the 100+ years in its etirety, I'm saying show us something from that time period, let us see the Doctor in his lowest point, characterize him, give him a better reason for returning to companionship. Don't skip over it all and show us roughly this: "oh no a traumatic event ill never have another compani oh hey you make souffles come with me"

By the time of souffles he was also intrigued by the fact that she is basically identical to a person who shouldn't even be born yet. So that helped.
But I agree that they shouldn't have done it the very next episode.

So I was rewatching Christopher Eccleston's season (great stuff if you don't mind Aliens of London/World War 3) and came to Dalek.

And a throwaway line at the beginning predicted Obama winning the 2012 election.

I just got my mind blown by the internet.

Mister Saxon = Master no. six

There was an episode during Tennant's run where he trying to help people without a companion and he was all like "SCREW MORALITY, I'M A TIME LORD!", so maybe something like that happened to 11 and he swore it off for a while. Maybe he didn't want to suffer the loss of companions again as well as not wanting to become a madman deciding who lives and who dies.

^ The Waters of Mars was an incredible episode. One of my favorites, really. And we can guess and assume all we want about what happened to 11 off-screen, but the fact remains that we didn't get to see any of that. Which means that it really doesn't matter one whit in the series.