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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:02 pm 
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Huh also Samurai Jack is getting a new season. On Adult Swim.

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Not just Adult Swim, but on Toonami, its rightful home.

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Those three A.M. reruns must have hit home somewhere.

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Marvel Comics is going to be publishing Civil War II with Bryan Michael Bendis at the helm. Wanna take any bets as to what super-complex political issues they'll hamfistedly utilize in an attempt to be topical? I'll put down 50 bucks right now on there being a Donald-Trump-like character in there.

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So I just watched Over the Garden Wall, and it was good







until the ending.

Oh hey it's all been in a modern era the whole time, oh hey it was all a goddamn DREAM, except it wasn't because the frog's belly still glows from the bell. Which makes no fucking sense. There's leaving the story open-ended and ambiguous, and then there's just changing the rules at the last minute. Also if the woodsman's daughter wasn't dead, but just vanished, why the hell would he just trust a fucking shadow monster that says "Here's your daughter's soul, totally trust me bro". It would have been so much more interesting if a) IT ALL WASN'T A GODDAMN DREAM, and b) she WAS dead and he learned to cope with that and find peace. But no. She's alive because fuck you, everyone has to have everything go completely right for them or else the kids get upset.

I felt like that ending was a complete cop-out and kind of ruined the show at the very end.

Everything else was good, just......that ending.....

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It could be a bit jarring, but the ending was hinted at throughout the whole thing with all of the era mixing and discussions of things that were more... modernish than you might think based on appearance. When they started mentioning step-dads and high school, and stuff like that it was a bit of a tip off.

Over The Garden Wall is entirely about Wirt's insecurities and his parallels with the Woodsman being a well-intentioned person who wants life's choices to be made for them because of the fear of The Unknown. Episode 9 plays this very clearly with how he makes himself out to be a social outcast hated by his peers and the girl he crushes on because they have as much ulterior motive as he credits himself as having. His step dad is an asshole for pushing band on him even though he likes music and would be good at it. His brother is an idealistic tag-along who he doesn't get along with because he never asked to have his mom marry Greg's dad and have his life be changed.

The Woodsman's daughter was likely either held captive/cursed by The Beast to disappear until his defeat set her free. Also probably executive meddling and it wasn't worth fighting over when the emotional bombshell still occurred.

This isn't even getting into the idea that The Unknown could be anything from an OZ-like world of dubious realness, a purgatory where souls of not only people but also fables, stories, and set-piece characters go until they're forgotten forever, OR that, since the ending was supposed to be darker and involve Wirt coming to terms with his own/Greg's death because of his own failings, the ending could be as Jason Funderberker said in the last line of the show:

"the loveliest lies of all".

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It's still a good show, I just don't see how the ending strengthens the story and brings it to a satisfactory conclusion.

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Holy crap, I thought I'd never see the full thing.

Gotta praise the guys, this looks great for CGI, Courage has all his great expressions. Eustace's voice is weird, but it still works for his character at the very least, original voice is still the best, though.

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This still exists and that makes me very pop flyin'.

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I just watched all of Rick and Morty in the past couple days and aww man I want to know what happens next.

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Wander over Yonder is a good, fun show and y'all should watch it.

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Looking at all the online talk about Batman vs. Superman has made me realize something: DC's success is effectively hamstrung by a ton of factors, but the three most significant are 1) Batman being the most popular character they have, 2) Nolan's darker-toned Batman movie trilogy having been a massive success, and 3) The incredibly varied public perceptions of DC's heroes that are shaped by a ton of things, including but not limited to out-of-context comic book panels posted on places like Reddit or Twitter and decades-old shows like Super Friends.

Let's take Superman for example. Public perception is mixed; some people think he's an awesome ideal to aspire to while some people think he's a boring hero who's never actually challenged. Write a story like Man of Steel or BvS and people say "This isn't Superman!". That's the side of the argument that I'm on, personally. But let's say that instead of MoS/BvS Superman they instead had the old-school boy-scout save-everyone Superman in a movie with an optimistic feel and message? How many people would complain that it's shallow kiddie crap without any suspense? The "Superman is boring" camp would have a field day.

DC has an amazing set of characters and concepts. The problem is that there are too many situations where whatever they try, they'll end up losing because it's not Batman.

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I really liked Man of Steel because it wasn't Superman and that was the point. It was the origin story told in an actually unique way: force Superman into becoming a hero without him getting the chance to really understand his powers. He makes a lot of mistakes, he fails to realize the danger he puts other people into, and while he saves the day he still has drastically lost. Which all culminated and came together to have him actually become Superman at the very end. It wasn't a great movie by any means but it tried to break Superman down in order to reconstruct him as an even stronger character and it's drastically unfortunate that BvS seems to have completely shit all over everything it did right.

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I haven't seen MoS in a while, but that end scene where he hands the army back to their satellite and he has that general jovial attitude... That's the kind of Supes I want to see. WB and DC's best hope right now in my opinion is to can Snyder and get someone else. I don't know who, but Snyder can't be allowed to work on any more DC films.

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Going by what I've heard, BVS was butchered when it came to editing the film for it's theatrical release. Apparently, they cut out a good quarter of the film that was actually relevant, and also increased the film's rating to an R. Last I heard, there were talks of releasing an extended edition when the DVD release cames around, so I'm holding off on seeing the film until that's out.

I have to say though, I'm going to see about giving MoS another chance because how you described it made the film sound much better than how I remember it.

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