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 Post subject: Re: Steven Universe thread: Nice Mass
PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:51 am 
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So some nice guys on another forum convinced me to watch almost all the Steven Universe episodes. And... I like the show. It's funny enough for my cup of tea and the characters are all character-y... and that's about it. I'm not good at intelligent media discussion.

SIde note: Jasper is trouble for me. I know a guy named Jasper, yet this Jasper is a girl. Whenever I mention her, it feels like I should be saying "him" and "he". It's confusing.

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 Post subject: Re: Steven Universe thread: Nice Mass
PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:14 pm 
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*thumbs up*

well, new episodes starting tomorrow, so...yeah.

good time to get into it.

how far are you? have you binged it all the way through yet?

and what exactly do you mean by 'almost all'?

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 Post subject: Re: Steven Universe thread: Nice Mass
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Missed quite a few around the time of Fusion Cuisine, speed bingewatched (sipped over the awkward parts) from episode 38, skipped at the crossover one (#53/4?) when UG said it wasn't canon. That poor, poor ship.

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 Post subject: Re: Steven Universe thread: Nice Mass
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You skipped Say Uncle? Go back and watch it.

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 Post subject: Re: Steven Universe thread: Nice Mass
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Absolutely do not watch Say Uncle. It was bad and has, by its own admission, nothing to do with anything.
Go ahead and watch it if you enjoy lowest common denominator humor and everyone being super out of character for no reason.

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 Post subject: Re: Steven Universe thread: Nice Mass
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or, alternatively, watch it because it's entertaining enough and is an entirely for fun episode that clearly had a lot of heart put into it and is, at least, like 12 minutes long with a few pretty solid gags.

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 Post subject: Re: Steven Universe thread: Nice Mass
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Absolutely do not watch Say Uncle. It was bad and has, by its own admission, nothing to do with anything.
Go ahead and watch it if you enjoy lowest common denominator humor and everyone being super out of character for no reason.

You know, people keep saying that, and I just dont see it. A bit exagerated maybe, but not out of character. And lowest denominator humor would be sex and fart jokes, which it is NOT, there's plenty of fun jokes in there.

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 Post subject: Re: Steven Universe thread: Nice Mass
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Turbo's just upset that the lizard-man character stole his gemsona.

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 Post subject: did I mention how much I dislike Pearl as a character yet
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Way to start the Bomb off right

I honestly didn't keep up with the announcements so I had no idea about Sardonyx. It was really amusing to see her personality. The parallels to Sugilite, while obvious, were really interesting. Unfortunately Pearl had to go and ruin everything by being obsessive about it, but the conflict was at least done pretty well.

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 Post subject: Re: Steven Universe thread: Nice Mass
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oh boy i sure do love crying over fictional space rocks, and steven

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My friend got me into Steven Universe, and I'm so hooked. I watch these all with my brothers, so it's really fun bonding over the whole show. We've been marathoning it since yesterday to try and get caught up before today, but oh well.

I screamed when Sardonyx laughed, omg. The pompous rich anime girl laugh, wow.

I have one question though! What the heck was up with Amethyst that one time in a previous episode when she and Greg were watching Lil Butler and then she shape shifts into Rose?? I wasn't sure what to think about that. I haven't watched all of them yet of course, so I don't know if that was explained sometime later.

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 Post subject: Re: Steven Universe thread: Nice Mass
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I have one question though! What the heck was up with Amethyst that one time in a previous episode when she and Greg were watching Lil Butler and then she shape shifts into Rose?? I wasn't sure what to think about that. I haven't watched all of them yet of course, so I don't know if that was explained sometime later.


It's not explained, just hinted at.

It seems like, at some point, probably before Steven remembers, Amethyst shifted into Rose's shape. She hurt Greg's feelings somehow, and it destroyed their friendship. Which is why he refused to look at her when she shifted again, because he couldn't deal with all that pain again.

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 Post subject: Re: Steven Universe thread: Nice Mass
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I would marry Pearl.

And Sardonyx is great, don't hate.

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 Post subject: Re: Steven Universe thread: Nice Mass
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sardonyx is exactly the same as sugilite.

both are immensely powerful, enjoy showing off, have extreme opinions of themselves, and are ultimately not particularly great people.

the difference in how they act, and how they're portrayed, is due to the major differences between pearl and amethyst. this episode very heavily confirmed that fusing with garnet is a massive power high for the both of them, and they both very much are subject to enjoy it.

however, amethyst tends to be a much more controlled person. she's... scrappy, and she can sometimes lose that control, but she does her best to "only feel how i want to feel". she also, naturally, buries a lot of her emotions very deep, and she is more heavily affected by what others think of her than she wants to be.
pearl is massively obsessive, and massively depressed. she needs to be dependent on another person to take care of or to look up to, in order to help her self-esteem. she very much needs it, and she's liable and willing to lie to herself and others when she feels like it's gone.

ultimately, this explains why both of their fusions with garnet went so wrong.

amethyst did not obsess over being sugilite. she clearly loves being the fusion, and she's very excited to do it again, but she doesn't feel like she needs it as a person. however, once she has it, she has a very hard time letting go. she loves the sheer power, and along with garnet thinking of herself as an individual and not two people, this means sugilite very quickly stops any and all desire to split apart, and becomes extremely offended when the idea is even brought up.

meanwhile, pearl isn't prone to try and overpower garnet, or anyone, like that. but the fusion not only makes her much more physically powerful, and she does seem to be the "weakest" gem in that regard, it also makes her feel very good about herself by proxy. sardonyx is pearl with her insecurities dropped and her inner ego at full display. she couldn't keep it going as long as she would have wanted, possibly because sardonyx feels like being showy for a short time is better than being around all the time, but she was just as trapped by the high as amethyst was. so she had to invent a way for her and garnet to fuse constantly.

sugilite was physically destructive and prone to give into amethyst's inner anger, sardonyx is an egomaniac who shows very little opinion of other people.

and they both caused very big problems.

after this, garnet could very easily be strained from the entire team, not just pearl. amethyst not only tried to defend pearl, but also did indeed confirm that the fusion is basically a pleasure trip. garnet, who has such a high opinion of fusing, is probably feeling very personally betrayed by the both of them.

this was a big deal. this is why this is the week of sardonyx. it's not a week of her appearing, it's about how she has severely disrupted the crystal gems, and we have no idea when or even if they'll ever have the same bonds of trust as before.

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 Post subject: Re: Steven Universe thread: Nice Mass
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:39 am 
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You really didn't need to explain that, we all saw the episode, it was pretty obvious

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