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 Post subject: Re: MSPA Thread: HAMSTEAK
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:52 pm 
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That's very true.


Also I keep forgetting that troll justice is basically "legal murderers". I keep trying to equate alien culture to my own culture which doesn't really match up very well.

One of the reasons why I despise Vriska so much. In Alternia everything she does is okay, but goddamn I hate her so much.

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Everything she does is OK in Alternian culture?
Fuck that planet.
Fuck this planet.
Fuck all the planets.
I'm done.

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 Post subject: Re: MSPA Thread: HAMSTEAK
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Who even cares.
In homestuck death and killing basically means nothing.

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That's very true.


Also I keep forgetting that troll justice is basically "legal murderers". I keep trying to equate alien culture to my own culture which doesn't really match up very well.

One of the reasons why I despise Vriska so much. In Alternia everything she does is okay, but goddamn I hate her so much.


It's only okay from the hemospectrum. As a friend? She was horrible and Terezi had all good reasons to kill her and I'm pretty sure the other trolls didn't find it okay that she straight up murdered 2 of their friends either. Not even to mention that everyone would have died if she left that meteor because she as always grossly overestimated her own abilities.

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 Post subject: Re: MSPA Thread: HAMSTEAK
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luroberto wrote:
Everything she does is OK in Alternian culture?
Fuck that planet.
Fuck this planet.
Fuck all the planets.
I'm done.


technically yeah

she only killed two people, aradia, and tavros. both were low bloods, and as royalty, she had every right to kill them. shit, she killed tavros in self-defense.

that doesn't make it right or good and everyone acknowledges this, but legally she didn't do anything wrong.




basically medieval europe

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 Post subject: Re: MSPA Thread: HAMSTEAK
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Also she fed all the losers of the people she FLARPed with to her lusus for years and years.
Eridan was also part of this, killing their lusi for Feferi's lusus

Basically every troll is a huge bag of neverending dicks

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Except, strangely enough, Karkat. He talks like an asshole but doesn't actually act like one on purpose. And when he does he seems to recognize it and try to make amends.

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Also she fed all the losers of the people she FLARPed with to her lusus for years and years.


none of them were named

nobody cares

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Malum wrote:
Who even cares.
In homestuck death and killing basically means nothing.


Only if you're a player, no-one knows how NPCs fare after death, except they can maybe become troll ghosts?

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none of them were named

nobody cares


There are a lot of people who disagree, that one fact is a huge factor in the "Bluh bluh vriska is a huge 8itch" deb8, and no-one let's the mass murdering of who knows how many hundreds, if not thousands of trolls, just be forgotten. I myself think that it was sorta justified in that it vriska had a choive between them, or Spider-mom would eat vriska, and in that culture reasoning like that would probably be enough to excuse it.


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 Post subject: Re: MSPA Thread: HAMSTEAK
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:04 pm 
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it's more than her not having a choice because she would be eaten

it's basically stated that the game is deadly, and everyone knows it, so everyone going in (minus aradia and tavros) is going in with murderous intent

so lets put this all together

she killed hundreds in self-defense
she killed someone people liked in self-defense
she killed someone because she was rustled


so like that's one girl she killed because of nothing but because.

and this is a mass murderer???

fuck it's not like everyone else hasn't killed someone or done bad things, bodaciously the whole cast minus tavros and karkat has taken part in some bad shit, and karkat made an entire universe die.

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She enjoyed all of it is my problem with her.

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 Post subject: Re: MSPA Thread: HAMSTEAK
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oh no, a murderous race of beings, known for all the murders they do basically daily, and bodaciously go around doing murders in space basically forever once they grow up, enjoys being murderous?

who'dathunk

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 Post subject: Re: MSPA Thread: HAMSTEAK
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Out of all the trolls we've met, there's exactly... 4 who've shown that. Meenah/the empress, sober Gamzee and Vriska. So yeah, she's a bitch.

Also funny how you plainly say the whole race are murderers but in your last post you put Vriska being a mass murderer in question "because she had a reason".

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 Post subject: Re: MSPA Thread: HAMSTEAK
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4?

so lets go back down the list of just the main trolls
karkat, sollux, tavros, suprisingly equius - done nothing
aradia - killed vriska, felt nothing
nepeta - hunted lusii because sometimes food
kanaya - killed eridan
terezi - killed vriska, wanted to grow up and kill more people, probably killed people in flarp
vriska, eridan - killed a lot of people for the good of the rest and themselves, vriska killed aradia, then eridan killed two people because he's a dick
gamzee - brought about the death of an entire universe and all the main characters by proxy and knowingly, killed equius, nepeta, and then went off to help the person who is mass-killing ghosts
feferi - was completely okay with vriska and eridan killing a bunch of people, and is hardwired to want to kill her genetic parent

bodaciously only four are not murderous

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Also funny how you plainly say the whole race are murderers but in your last post you put Vriska being a mass murderer in question "because she had a reason".


because she did

in fact a lot of them had reasons

but they're still completely okay with it, especially at the time

the only one to show any real remorse so far is terezi, and she's not exactly at her best so who knows how she usually feels?

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 Post subject: Re: MSPA Thread: HAMSTEAK
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Aradia killed one person as revenge.
Nepeta killed mostly for food and got brought up by a cat and you know how cats are.
Kanaya killed Eridan because he kinda was on a murderous rampage and almost killed her.
Terezi wanted to bring justice. And the time she actually did kill someone she regretted it and is still regretting it 3 years later.
I forgot Eridan, but then again he wasn't of sound mind when he did it.
I mentioned Gamzee.
Feferi was kinda one of the kindest trolls of them all and that's why she didn't feel angry with them. Which is not a good thing. But the things she killed were all food for her weapon of mass destruction lusus.

Vriska has thrown someone off a cliff, mindcontrolled someone to kill Aradia, killed tons of Flarpers to save her own hide? Though why didn't she just... not go back home? She could fend for herself obviously, why not let the spider rot in her basement? Feferi didn't have that option because hungry giant squid = all trolls die.
The difference between Vriska and the others is that she finds killing others an amusing past time. Even without her lusus she would have probably killed a whole bunch of flarpers just for the hell of it. Everyone else had a hell of a better reason to kill anyone than she ever did. (Except Eridan. Fuck Eridan.)

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