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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:47 am 
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I agree with Le Great Handsome Oppressor.

I haven't read a fiction book in ages though, so I've got nothing to say :|.


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I'll use your questions above as a template.

I super-enjoyed World War Z.

By Max Brooks, who I learned recently is Mel Brooks' son.

It is framed as a collection of postwar interviews with people who were involved with (or in some cases, the cause of) important events.

It is ostensibly about, as the title suggests, a world war between humans and zombies, but the zombie plague is, as is usually the case in zombie fiction, a metaphor for human society. Brooks uses the zombie war as a veil for satire aimed at several current ongoing conflicts and debates around the world.

Zombie fiction is always a good read, and the social and political commentary in this book is well-executed.

Brooks also wrote the Zombie Survival Guide, which is a how-to defense manual for surviving a zombie outbreak. It contains a treasure trove of sensible, real-life survival advice, while the overall tone of the Guide is that modern weapons will not do you any good against the undead. If I remember correctly, World War Z grew out of this Guide.

I would absolutely recommend both World War Z and the Zombie Survival Guide, though I'm not sure how many people on this forum haven't already read both.

I am still reading these books, again and again. Though obviously the Survival Guide is something that you would want to reread and memorize in case of a zombie outbreak :awesomeface: , World War Z is just damn interesting.

I hear World War Z is being made into a movie; not sure how to feel about that yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Books and shit
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:50 am 
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I recently finished reading the Chronicles of Malus Darkblade.

I can safely say it was unlike anything i have ever read.
Particularly because it is the first time i read something with a Dark Fantasy genre like this one.
They are a series from the Black Library (from Warhammer), and from what i heard, among the darkest of them.
They were written by Dan Abnett (Dan Abnett is a British comic book writer and novelist)and Mike Lee (Mike Lee is a novelist and game designer best known for his work for the Black Library)
Mike Lee was the main writer, Dan Abnett assisted him.

Mike Lee wrote other books for the Black Library, but i haven't read them.

The books are... scary. It is full of action suspense and death. There wasn't a moment in which i wasn't hooked, every chapter reveals something. And this is no small feat seeing how long each of the books are, they had me hooked the entire way, so much that in the end i was even rooting for the bad guy to win (main character being the bad guy).
What is it about? It gives backstory on the world of the Druchii (kind of black elves) in Warhammer, focusing on the main character, Malus Darkblade, who is the bastard son of the Vaulkhar (General/Commander of the Army), which is pretty high in Druchii society. Malus Darkblade is... evil, cruel, cunning and ambitious, something one would never relate to, and yet... There is something about his the guy is utterly ruthlessness and lack of mercy that you just cannot like. He does anything he wants, things you would normally yell at cliched characters from any other fantasy novel to do but they would screw up. And the ways in which he is screwed aren't totally his fault, it's just that everyone is an evil druchii which makes the story so very interesting.

I would recommend them to readers looking for something new, and who have the time for it. The books will take you time, and you will be hooked, so if you are tight in your schedule don't pick them up just yet.

I will probably keep them for a long time to come. I won't re-read them yet, they were a long read, so i will let some years pass to read them again and discover all those details i probably missed.

Is there anything unique? Have you ever felt satisfaction in knowing the main character managed to kill or enslave countless humans including children and female? Yeah, the book is unique alright.


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 Post subject: Re: Books and shit
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:55 am 
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These are good posts! That was moreso just a bunch of suggestions rather than a template, but hey, whatever works.

I found The Zombie Survival Guide rather poor, actually. I blame a lack of editing. The tone was very inconsistent; he couldn't seem to decide if he wanted to write a funny book, or an informative one. It didn't really work very well as a mix of both. I often found myself questiong either the information in it, or questiong the lack of certain information. If he wanted to do a humour survival book, I think he would have been better off going way over the top, a la the vault survival stuff in Fallout.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:57 am 
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Oh, oops. Nevermind.

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 Post subject: Re: Books and shit
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:59 am 
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Spoony wrote:
These are good posts! That was moreso just a bunch of suggestions rather than a template, but hey, whatever works.

I found The Zombie Survival Guide rather poor, actually. I blame a lack of editing. The tone was very inconsistent; he couldn't seem to decide if he wanted to write a funny book, or an informative one. It didn't really work very well as a mix of both. I often found myself questiong either the information in it, or questiong the lack of certain information. If he wanted to do a humour survival book, I think he would have been better off going way over the top, a la the vault survival stuff in Fallout.

See, I thought a very thin layer of satire was much more effective than outright comedy. But to each his own.

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 Post subject: Re: Books and shit
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:03 am 
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Exeres wrote:
See, I thought a very thin layer of satire was much more effective than outright comedy. But to each his own.
A thin layer of satire could have worked pretty well, yeah, but if that was the intention, then the lack of information in parts detracts from the effectiveness of that, I feel.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:04 am 
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Do remember that he was writing a survival guide in case of "lol zombies". So a lack of information could have stemmed from a straight-up lack of information. Although I might need a specific example of what type of information was lacking, I understand what you mean.

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 Post subject: Re: Books and shit
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:10 am 
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True, the facts and figures in question being mostly fictional would be somewhat of an obstacle in that regard. Still, the core of what he had was pretty well done. If that was his first book, then presumably his future work will have a bit more polish to it.


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 Post subject: Re: Books and shit
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:53 am 
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Max Brooks is a crazy man
met him @ NYComicCon last year. got a signed survival guide.

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 Post subject: Re: Books and shit
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You should definitely read World War Z if you haven't already. It's written as a collection of interviews after a successfully-repelled zombie apocalypse, in which the world economy and infrastructure has pretty much been knocked back to the Industrial era. It's interesting reading, and contains somewhat more scatching commentary on current social and political trends. Some of the stories given really make you feel like they were written by different people, and some of them will tug at your heartstrings.

I think I'm just rephrasing what I already wrote, but there it is.

In other news, I STILL haven't finished The Colour of Magic. I swear I will eventually.

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 Post subject: Re: Books and shit
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Roshar is a world of stone and storms. Uncanny tempests of incredible power sweep across the rocky terrain so frequently that they have shaped ecology and civilization alike. Animals hide in shells, trees pull in branches, and grass retracts into the soilless ground. Cities are built only where the topography offers shelter.

It has been centuries since the fall of the ten consecrated orders known as the Knights Radiant, but their Shardblades and Shardplate remain: mystical swords and suits of armor that transform ordinary men into near-invincible warriors. Men trade kingdoms for Shardblades. Wars are fought for them, and won by them.

One such war rages on a ruined landscape called the Shattered Plains. There, Kaladin, who traded his medical apprenticeship for a spear, has been reduced to slavery. In a war that makes no sense, where ten armies fight separately against a single foe, he struggles to save his men and to fathom the leaders who consider them expendable.

Brightlord Dalinar Kholin commands one of those other armies. Like his brother, the late king, he is fascinated by an ancient text called The Way of Kings. Troubled by overpowering visions of ancient times and the Knights Radiant, he has begun to doubt his own sanity.

Across the ocean, an untried young woman named Shallan seeks to train under the eminent scholar and notorious heretic Jasnah Kholin, Dalinar's niece. Though she genuinely loves learning, Shallan's motives are less than pure. As she plans a daring theft, her research for Jasnah hints at secrets of the Knights Radiant and the true cause of the war.

The result of more than ten years of planning, writing, and worldbuilding, The Way of Kings is but the opening movement of the Stormlight Archive, a bold masterpiece in the making.

Speak again the ancient oaths,

Life before death.
Strength before weakness.
Journey before destination.

and return to men the Shards they once bore.

The Knights Radiant must stand again.


Recently re-read the Way of Kings and decided to talk about it. First off, it's done by Brandon Sanderson, who wrote the Mistborn trilogy, Elantris, and Warbreaker, all great novels. He's also the one who was pegged to finish the Wheel of Time series when he had one novel to his name. Gives some kind of indication to his talent.

Anyway, Way of Kings was an incredible book. Sanderson has a gift for making every major character come to life no matter what they're doing. They become real and vivid when they appear, each having their own goals and motives, where the conflict that makes everything interesting is inevitable. He explores the minds of the four who tell the story, revealing their backgrounds, their feelings, and their determinations. Each comes from a different walk of life in the culture of Roshar and all of them are as interesting as the next. Each of them has an individual plot in the book, and at first seem uninvolved with each other. But as the book goes on, you begin to notice the four plotlines are getting closer and closer, until by the very end they have all joined together as one cohesive thread.

Another thing I love about Sanderson is he creates such interesting cultures. In Way of Kings the nobles are those with light colored eyes, and the lower class are dark colored eyes. But dark doesn't automatically mean slave, and they can ascend to higher positions through work that are then passed to their descendants. Everything done in the primary culture involves the powerful storms that constantly assault the world. The currency are small glass spheres with various gemstone chips inside them that shine when they are imbued with Stormlight after being left out in a storm. The bigger the chip, the more valuable the sphere. The Infinity +1 Swords/Armors are all imbued with Stormlight. Every living thing has evolved to survive the storms, from plants that withdraw underground at a touch to giant shelled creatures used for work animals. Even the landscapes reflect the storms, bare and open as far as the eye can see.

And thirdly, the magic systems in his work. Mistborn had Allomancy, where swallowing bits of metal allowed magical powers. Warbreaker had Breath and color, that allowed you to command unliving objects. And the Stormlight Archives are no different. Stormlight is a mystical power, first wielded by the assassin in the first chapter. He uses it to create Surgebindings, which I can best describe as altering gravity and where it's pulling. By placing a Surgebinding on a rock it can fly to the opposite wall, putting it on oneself allows for feats of acrobatics beyond mortal men, and using it on structures can bring the whole thing crashing down.

The book is the first of many in the Stormlight Archive, and is Brandon Sanderson's most powerful work to date. I don't know how many in the series are planned, but I do know I'll read every single one. It's just impossible for Sanderson to write something that is not completely engaging.

For anyone who wants to give Way of Kings a shot, he has the first six chapters on his site available for reading here, including the prelude and prologue. http://www.brandonsanderson.com/library ... -Chapters/

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 Post subject: Re: Books and shit
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:09 pm 
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Oh, Spoony likes Series of Unfortunate Events! I like those books too, though I haven't read them in a while.

I also really like the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan. They're similar to Tolkien's Lord of the Rings books, but I find the Wheel of Time a lot easier to stay interested in. The books themselves are very long. It's just too bad Jordan passed away before he could finish them--another person had to complete the series based on the notes they found after Jordan's death.

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You should definitely read World War Z if you haven't already. It's written as a collection of interviews after a successfully-repelled zombie apocalypse, in which the world economy and infrastructure has pretty much been knocked back to the Industrial era. It's interesting reading, and contains somewhat more scatching commentary on current social and political trends. Some of the stories given really make you feel like they were written by different people, and some of them will tug at your heartstrings.

I think I'm just rephrasing what I already wrote, but there it is.

In other news, I STILL haven't finished The Colour of Magic. I swear I will eventually.

KEEP READING.
THE SERIES ONLY GETS BETTER FROM THERE.
Assuming you're talking about Discworld. I have no idea if any other books are called that.

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