AWKWARD ZOMBIE

He has extreme issues with losing people. Which is understandable for a 1000 year old who has probably seen more friends disappear than most other people ever had. Seeing River, the Professor River from the Library who he couldn't save, it's horrible for him. Well not entirely save.

Thinking of starting this up

I'm told that it would be best to start with the 9th doctor

Truth?

I'd say 3rd

You don't necessarily have to watch the old show to get and enjoy it since everything got explained again after the reboot, but the old series is quite enjoyable a lot of the time.

And yeah, 3rd Doctor is a good idea. It's the first doctor that doesn't have missing episodes and was the first on colour TV.

I've known people who have just given up on the series forever after seeing some of the older stuff(their loss). I'd say watch the episode "Blink" and then go back and start from season 1. That's how I've been introducing people to the series, and it seems to work really well.

But that's just if you're talking about the new series. I don't know about the old series.

The first episode really is a terrible impression if you're going to watch it from the start of Nine, and this is coming from someone whose favorite Doctor is Nine. Start with him, and then stick with it until at least through episode 3. One in the present, one in the future, and one in the past.

Matt Smith is leaving Doctor Who

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/ar ... Doctor-Who

Shit, there goes the last redeeming feature of the show.

I think everyone said that when Tennant left. Also, recall that Moffat did very well writing for Nine and Ten, maybe Eleven is just a limiting character compared to them? Series needs a change of face, anyway. I have a feeling it'll pick up with #12.

his last regeneration

In my opinion the series will only pick up when Moffat is booted off the show. I don't care if he wrote a few good episodes in the past; I feel like his writing has made the show go down the shitter.
He can't even stay consistent with his own monsters, the weeping angels. He's broken every rule he originally established for them.

Nine's episodes were fine, but keep in mind Jack Harkness was introduced only as someone who wanted to get into everyone's pants and didn't gain any depth until after he was taken over by RTD

Girl in the Fireplace: The Doctor meets someone and immediately falls in love with her, oops she dies. Ten, Rose and Mickey were also written EXACTLY like Eleven, Amy and Rory. Go rewatch that episode and tell me it wouldn't work right in with Season 6.
Blink: The main girl is written precicely like all his other characters, has 2 love interest within the 20 minutes the episode happens, and the problem is solved by everyone EXCEPT her. It also introduces my least favorite aspect of Doctor Who's plotlines: Wibbly wobbly timey wimey.
Library: These are actually good, except for ONE detail: he says that women can only be beautiful or smart, not both.

They have the exact problems his later episodes have, only they don't have the year of shitty continuity to back up the shit.

Matt Smith was the only thing keeping me watching at this point. Clara is a boring rehash of Amy, the plots are for the most part dumb, the latest episode made me SO GODDAMN MAD, and everything revolves around THE DOCTOR THIS THE DOCTOR THAT OH NO THE DOCTOR instead of showing the universe through the eyes of his companions.
We haven't had a companion who was an ordinary human born on Earth in 4 years. It's always been some kind of bullshit destiny time shit that causes them to find him instead of being ordinary people who impress him.

Matt Smith is a good actor, and he makes most of his terrible lines believable and amazing. If the next guy can't impress me within 3 episodes, I'm done.

Not necessarily. It was established long ago that the Time Lords have some way of restoring regenerations on Gallifrey. They did it for the Master in exchange for him helping the Doctor in a story.

Yeah, he started off as a gag character and only got proper development because everyone loved him. That kind of thing happens all the time everywhere.

"I just snogged Madame du Pompadour!" is not a line I can imagine coming out of 11's mouth. At all.

Wibbly wobbly timey wimey is how time in Doctor who has always been, it just wasn't called that.


Does it? Because I'm fairly certain that River is portrayed as an attractive and smart woman. It's just that one girl whose name I can't remember who wasn't all that smart and when the upload didn't work out properly and she didn't have her good looks either anymore the program gave her smarts instead or something along the lines.


Uhm, no. There's no destiny bullshit at all going on. It's time travel bullshit. Amy, Rory and Clara are all ordinary human born people. He took Amy and Rory with him just because. No destiny bullshit. The fact he met River kinda set in stone that it's going to happen but he didn't know that so it was still kinda his own decision to do so. With Clara it's a stable time loop. He's met two of her fragments which led him to search for her which led her to split into fragments across his timeline which led him to meet them in the first place.


The only rule that was somehow broken that I can think of is when the Statue of Liberty started walking around because there's logically almost no possibility for there to be no one that looks at it at any given time. But aside from that I can't think of any rule breaking.

It's how Moffat excuses not explaining a lot of his time loops, I'm fine with things being nonlinear, but when you don't even TRY to establish a coherent timeline and write it off as "oh well time is wibbly" I get mad.


"I think a decimal point may have shifted in my IQ, but I have the two qualities required to see absolute truth: I am brilliant, and unloved."
Since she was pretty before, she wasn't smart, but when her pretty went away, boom smartness. Apparently you can't be both.


Amy was destined to be his companion because she's River's mother, as was Rory, because she was conceived in the time vortex.
Clara is NOT a stable time loop, her whole point for existing was to save the Doctor, she said it herself.


Episode 1 with the Angels:
"The angels don't kill you directly, they're creatures of the abstract, they zap you into the past and let you live to death"
That's an amalgam of 3 quotes, but it gets my point across.
Episode 2/3:
Angels start breaking people's necks and using their consciousness to speak. When the HELL did those abilities come into play. Also, now any image of an angel is also an angel.
Episode 4:
Angels no longer break people's necks and instead are content to farm time energy off people, images of angels aren't apparently angels anymore because otherwise the statue of liberty's keychains, pictures, figurines, etc, would also be angels. Also they can turn other statues into angels somehow, when they're not even statues and it's just a defense mechanism in their biology. They also no longer take control of people's consciousnesses.

The neck breaking thing was because those ones were almost dead. They bodaciously didn't have enough "juice" to zap people back in time at first and needed to do that instead. It was said in the episode. Hence why you don't see them do that any other time.

I agree with the statue of liberty, that was crap.


Clara only existing to save the doctor because she said so... well she isn't exactly all knowing. I think it was meant more metaphor like that that's her "purpose in life" kind of deal, as decided by herself at that moment. It's still a time loop by that the effect causes the cause to happen.

And Amy and Rory was not destined in the usual sense, in Who things only become fixed points in time once they're experienced or something like that. It was only destined to happen from the point where the Doctor first met River, since he already met her in his time line that couldn't be changed anymore or something. If he never met her, no problem, things would have still been open for change, he could have thrown out the two before River was ever conceived and she just wouldn't exist in the time line of the Doctor (but still in parallel ones where he didn't?) or something like that. It's hard to wrap your head around it since every show with time travel handles changing the past differently but I think that's the way it was explained at a few points in the show. Things that only have a small impact can be changed while the big ones make the universe implode. That's why he couldn't save all of Pompeii, but a single family was okay. Of course that opens up different questions again "What is an acceptably small change?" "What if the son of that family would grow up to become a conqueror and change the history of the whole planet completely? Wouldn't that be a big impact then?" etc.

And pretty and dumb lady turning into smart and ugly, the two things didn't really have anything to do with each other. It's not like getting ugly caused her to become smart or the other way around. It was a coincidence in the story. She just went from one extreme to the other, never is it implied that that's normal or the only 2 possibilities. What's up with her "absolute truth" comment I didn't really get that, I think she meant it in a sense of "only like this you can really concentrate on it" or something because there's no "distraction" by being popular or something.