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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:32 am 
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I loved Interstellar, mainly because it's a beautiful and interesting movie, both in terms of aesthetic and scenario. The backgrounds were great (I dreamed about space for days after seeing it), the characters were very well done (TARS is probably the first robot I see who really acts and talks like a human, and whose personnality can't be summed up by "He's a robot") and the scenario was well written. There were one or two inconsistencies and liberties were taken with some scientific stuff, but goddamit it's good, original, well-written, breathtaking science-fiction. I thought we stopped making these, and this movie gave me hope.

Plus there's no sound in space and turns out it's not a problem, as it makes for calm, majestic scenes. Take that Star Wars !

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:39 pm 
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I saw Interstellar. Good movie, I'd recommend it. I think it kind of went overboard with my suspension of disbelief towards the end though and the pop flyin' ending kind of left it lacking impact in a way?


The ending felt weirdly forced for a happier conclusion, yeah. I feel like it would have been much better off if it was hyped up that he would meet his daughter, and then it turns out she's been dead for years and she left him one last recording if he ever came back.

But honestly, for three hours of amazing sci-fy thriller, with a fantastic cast, incredible set pieces, and just overall astounding cinematography, and my only single gripe is the ending could have been better? Good fuckin' job, Interstellar.

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just saw The Imitation Game. Was p. neato

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 Post subject: Re: Movies
PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:03 am 
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Why didn't Bilbo use the ring to fight orcs? Why didn't Thorin equip any mithril? Why didn't Sting glow blue in some shots?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:28 pm 
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Well, actually in the book... and let's leave it at that.

Also, they might just not have more mithril.

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Rewatched Sky High and so much cheese.

Pretty sure I could start a factory processing all this cheesiness.

Still, was overall good. Disappointing that while it was a superhero high school, it added little to the high school formula.

It kinda irks me that any show or film that happens in high school generally have the same story progression.

It was a predictable plot line, the typical awkward good guy main character who has a lot of pressure on his success in high school along with the typical bad boy who secretly has a heart of gold, arrogant popular people, best friend who has a crush on main character but main character doesn't know etc.

I think the superhero theme was its saving grace as that made somewhat different from every other high school movie at least, which made it interesting enough.

Only two *famous* actors in it, Bruce Campbell and Kurt Russel. Others weren't as well known or I didn't recognise them.

Overall an enjoyable experience but cliche.

Also, there is one notable character named Warren Peace, a pun on War & Peace novel, of course. He is likely named that to reflect the conflicting natures of his parents. His dad was a supervillain, his mom was a superheroine. War & Peace respectively.

Also if someone can hook me up with some Russian uranium and/or a scorpion/spider, that'd be great.


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 Post subject: Re: Movies
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:07 am 
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Why didn't Bilbo use the ring to fight orcs? Why didn't Thorin equip any mithril? Why didn't Sting glow blue in some shots?


You might recall that Bilbo's/Frodo's mithril vest carried the equivalent worth of the entire Shire and everything in it...or maybe not, since it wasn't mentioned in the original movie trilogy. Not only was the mineral exceedingly rare, but those that knew how to work and forge it were all but gone by that point.

Since we're on the topic of Five Armies, I recently got on a kick of repeating the ending theme "Last Goodbye" repeatedly. It's now my #1 pick for song I'd like to play well and can't.

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Um, I'm not sure what you're referring to here, since the White Council kicking Sauron out of Dol Guldur happens in the book, it is given as the reason Gandalf couldn't travel with the dwarves any more. Course it's not described at all, and Gandalf didn't go in solo like a retard (really hate that part in the movie).


Just saw this. Actually he did go in alone in the book, he just wasn't captured. I don't remember the timeframe involved - whether he went to scout Dol Guldur when he left the party in the Hobbit or if he went straight to gather the Middle Earth Avengers at that point - but he first snuck in alone then fetched the rest of the bunch after he discovered the Necromancer's identity. He brags about having gone in alone to Boromir in Fellowhip. So artistic license cliffhangers and all that but still mostly based on the source material.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:40 am 
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So let me get this straight, the guy suffering from dragon sickness gives the non-dwarf mercenary his extremely expensive bulletproof vest instead of wearing it himself?

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 Post subject: Re: Movies
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Maybe it was just too small for him.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:44 am 
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The whole dragon-sickness thing was mostly an over-dramatizing of a few events that happened in the book. If I remember correctly nothing was mentioned of Thror, Thorin's grandfather, having that sort of thing. Book-Thorin was definitely obsessed with finding the Arkenstone, though I get the impression it was more for restoring legitimacy to his home than any infectious greed. He did do the whole crazy thing at the gate with Bilbo so it's my understanding that the hereditary dragon-sickness was mostly a device to explain the whole "I have never been so wrong" to "Get off before I throw you off myself" transition. Can't have a wealthy and prosperous civilization in movies these days without some form of corruption, apparently, although it might have partially stemmed from Book-Thror's weird decision to go to an orc-infested Moria alone after Smaug did his thing.

And the vest was too small for any of the dwarves, and all the dwarves were giddy at how huge the hoard was at the time.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:58 am 
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...too small for dwarves? The mail vest made for war by dwarves!?

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 Post subject: Re: Movies
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:23 am 
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the Necromancer into The Hobbit even though it canonically happened centuries earlier
Um, I'm not sure what you're referring to here, since the White Council kicking Sauron out of Dol Guldur happens in the book, it is given as the reason Gandalf couldn't travel with the dwarves any more. Course it's not described at all, and Gandalf didn't go in solo like a retard (really hate that part in the movie). Are you talking about the rise of the Witch King in Angmar? I don't remember the timeframe for that.
Oh I was wrong then. I was under the impression that Galadriel and Lothlórien in general weren't in the book. Didn't Gandalf sneak into Dol Guldur to witness the last Dwarf-lord being tortured to death and have his ring taken from him, and only then figure out the Necromancer was Sauron? That's what I thought happened centuries before LOTR, so still long before The Hobbit. I might be confusing official sources with derivative work though.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:36 am 
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I was under the impression that Galadriel and Lothlórien in general weren't in the book.

She isn't mentioned in The Hobbit, but it's lore correct that she's part of the White Council I think.

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Didn't Gandalf sneak into Dol Guldur to witness the last Dwarf-lord being tortured to death and have his ring taken from him

I don't think that's mentioned in The Hobbit, possibly that's in another work? I don't recall it.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:06 am 
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Thraìn, father of Thorin, is captured in Dol Guldur where Sauron tortures him into insanity and takes from him the last Dwarven ring of power. He does however manage to give Gandalf the important map and key used in the Hobbit.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:20 pm 
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Barabba wrote:
...too small for dwarves? The mail vest made for war by dwarves!?


Thorin isn't sure when he gives the vest to Bilbo, but he assumes it was made for an Elven princeling or some other important guest of diminutive stature.

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I don't think that's mentioned in The Hobbit, possibly that's in another work? I don't recall it.


The details of what went on at Dol Guldur, including the Necromancer's identity and Gandalf's solo mission and everything else besides almost the literal sentence "We kicked the Necromancer out of his house", are explained in Fellowship of the Ring at the Council of Elrond instead of Hobbit. It would've made for a pretty boring scene just hearing Gandalf spouting exposition about things we'd never seen, though, which is why we're seeing it now instead of hearing about it in the pre-sequel or se-prequel or whatever the first trilogy would've been.

From what I'm reading, though, the Extended Edition of "Desolation of Smaug" does include Thrain at Dol Guldur.

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