AWKWARD ZOMBIE

Even so, Disney animation here was never solely directed at children, it was more of a family experience, which is why a lot of Disney films have parts in them that aren't really fully appreciated by kids (The Evil Queen in Snow White kicking over the skeleton shows she's evil to the kids, but the adults are the one who realize she left a glass of water right out of his reach, and that he might have been the Huntsman she sent to kill Snow White).

I think the main beef lie with the people who followed disney and did it poorly. Things like the saturday morning cartoons and the endless Hanna-Barbara shows being churned out for cheap that kids were obstinately drawn to (after all, TV back in the early days were mostly used for news and variety shows, something that isn't too terribly thrilling to the kids used to following radio serials).

This is it exactly. Disney's original intent was to make movies for everyone. Even some of the other early studios (Warner Brothers and Fleischer for example) were aiming at a general audience, but when animation became more accessible to more studios, people like Hanna-Barbara wanted in, but they wanted to make shows on the cheap. Hell, even their Flintstones was primetime material, but it got to a point that they wanted more, cheaper content, and as those cartoons began to really look like they had no budget they had to aim at an audience that wouldn't mind the quality.

It's unfortunate because both were successful at a time, but since the cheap cartoons were popular at a time Disney and others weren't, the overall market for animation shifted to primarily children to let them all keep getting profit. We kind of got a mainstream resurgence when Pixar came into the picture, but Disney's been watering them down a bit as of late, and anything aiming for a mature and not general audience has always needed to be off the beaten path. Which is awful because the medium can totally do some really amazing things, I'd love to see what some really big name directors would do with it.

can you say perfect casting because holy shit

I dunno, I think James Woods would be good for Fear. I mean come on, Hades style speaking would be great.

Lewis Black as Anger more like Lewis Black as Super Meat Boy look at that little guy

So

Looper

Actually pretty good

looper is one of those few movies that managed to fool me to the very end

which in my book is a daisies good movie coz im pretty good at figuring plots out x:

To be fair it only manages its twist by blatantly disregarding its own established rules.

Still a pretty good movie though.

I thought one of the main points in Looper was that there WEREN'T any rules established for time travel...

As in when asked about it, Bruce Willis told us to shove it up our asses and went on with the plot.

Yeah, I don't quite remember which rules it disregarded. Could you elaborate?

Yeah, that's true, but if old Joe never came back then young Joe wouldn't have a reason to kill himself etc etc. Not sure if that counts as breaking your own rules if you actually spend a scene in the movie basically saying, "Listen, this time bullshit is really complicated so just deal with it"

Oh there was going to be paradox no matter what, that's true of all time-travel movies. Like I said, I still enjoyed the movie, it's just that I notice stuff like that.

And that's actually a common trick called lampshading. By drawing attention to the inconsistency, rather than hiding it, the audience is more likely to accept it and move on.

That's my problem with most time travel movies, they're in over their head.

Suspension of disbelief homies. Square cube law sez giant robot could never exist, but fuck that Pacific Rim was rad.