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 Post subject: WoW: Cataclysm?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:09 pm 
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http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=92919.0

*LOREGASM*

ByEluneIhopethisistrueomgomgomgitwouldbesoamazing.


Also, be sure to read the disclaimers. The quote at the top of the page isn't confirmed entirely correct yet, but the rest of the article bellow the header "Cataclysm" is true.

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Oh God do fucking want.

And this happens after I quit Goddamn it.

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EDIT: Oh, I went and saw that thing, I thought you were linking older stuff.

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Durotar is wrecked, along with Orgrimmar, which is torn in two. A new orc city is rebuilt over the course of the expansion.
This makes me dubious about the entire article, as there were claims that was going to happen in WotLK too, what with Arthas supposedly invading and destroying Orgrimmar.

But it never happened.

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Malfurion comes back and helps activate the new Guardian of Tirisfal - Thrall.
Also this seems utterly nonsensical in the context of what the Guardian of Tirisfal are... Which is very powerful mages.

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The level cap is 85.
Oh and this seems dubious too. There is a LOT in this article that seems very weird in the context of what Blizzard has done thusfar with the game and their lore. Especially with the claims that most of the old world is going to be redone... But there's only going to be five levels of content? Comeon, the old world is huge!

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Flying mounts will be useable in Azeroth.
And there it is. No chance in hell. The entire oldworld would have to be thrown away entirely. There is absolutely no way you can make flying mounts work in the old Azeroth, so it would have to be completely rebuilt from scratch. What are they going to do? Have all new players start at level 58 in Outlands?

The old world is bigger than Northrend and Outlands combined. The amount of work to redo it from scratch, AND add new islands and stuff in the ocean, is not feasible.

Not to mention that about half the old World is bodaciously empty space between zones. What the hell are they going to fill those empty spots up with?

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Wailing Caverns is going to be completely redone into a lush green tropical area, as a result of the druids working their magic to prevent it from falling into lava.
What? There was no part of the Wailing Caverns lore that involved the place falling into lava!

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Make no mistake, the Old God content is not done. Since Netharion and Azshara both have ties to Old Gods, it is now clear that the SERIES wide antagonists of WoW are the Old Gods.
What? The series wide antagonists of WoW are the Burning Legion, as almost all the Warcraft lore revolves around them. Whoever wrote this clearly doesn't have a good understanding of the story D:

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Karilyn wrote:
EDIT: Oh, I went and saw that thing, I thought you were linking older stuff.

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Durotar is wrecked, along with Orgrimmar, which is torn in two. A new orc city is rebuilt over the course of the expansion.

This makes me dubious about the entire article, as there were claims that was going to happen in WotLK too, what with Arthas supposedly invading and destroying Orgrimmar.

But it never happened.


Orgrimmar's awesome. Hope it doesn't go :<

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Blegh, that was a monster of a post.

But meh...

Basically, I'd eat my hat if even one of those things I named actually turned out to be true.

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Do you promise? Do you really promise?

I want to see you eat your hat. What kind of hat do you have?

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Fauche wrote:
Do you promise? Do you really promise?

I want to see you eat your hat. What kind of hat do you have?

I don't actually own any hats. But I would buy a hat and eat it.

Seriously, this entire thing read like a really poorly written April Fools joke in the middle of August.

I mean, from what I've seen of the old world via poking around, it would be impossible to reuse any of it if they were to add flying mounts. Even major cities like Stormwind would have to be completely redone, as the entire city is made up of one-sided polygons and tricks and cheats in order to make the Cathedral Tower visible from the entire city.

And this concept is directly contradicted by the mentioning of opening zones in old Azeroth that haven't been opened yet (like Hyjal). You wouldn't be opening any zones, because they'd be created from scratch.

Hell, almost a fair 30-40% of the old world is bodaciously empty space. Flat land between mountain ranges with no texturing or modeling done to it.

Yes, I just rustled on all the happiness and joy. I'd love most of the stuff in that to be real (other than killing Carne :( ), but it's just wishful thinking.

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The entire point of this expansion is to remake the old world, get rid of useless and redundant content, and make things more accessible and interesting for leveling 1 to the cap.

Also, the level 80-85 is meant to make leveling have more of an impact, making it more of an acheivement than 10 levels.

Considering parts of the world will be destroyed, others changed, it's no so far-fetched an idea.

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Fauche wrote:
The entire point of this expansion is to remake the old world, get rid of useless and redundant content, and make things more accessible and interesting for leveling 1 to the cap.

Also, the level 80-85 is meant to make leveling have more of an impact, making it more of an acheivement than 10 levels.

What I'm saying is they couldn't even reuse it at all. The entire old world would have to be remodeled from scratch, and they would need to either reshape zones, or something in order to fill up the 30-40% blank space that would be very very visible if you could fly around.

Old World Azeroth is huge. It utterly dwarfs Northrend and Outlands combined. I have a hard time seriously imagining them somehow stitching something like this together...

Especially when Blizzard has reiterated over and over that they don't care much about low level content, because almost the entire playerbase spends almost all their time at level cap content.

Why completely revamp something that only single digit percentage of the playerbase is going to play with? (probably even less than 1%)

...

Or maybe I'm just being a cynic.

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Karilyn wrote:
Fauche wrote:
The entire point of this expansion is to remake the old world, get rid of useless and redundant content, and make things more accessible and interesting for leveling 1 to the cap.

Also, the level 80-85 is meant to make leveling have more of an impact, making it more of an acheivement than 10 levels.

What I'm saying is they couldn't even reuse it at all. The entire old world would have to be remodeled from scratch, and they would need to either reshape zones, or something in order to fill up the 30-40% blank space that would be very very visible if you could fly around.

Old World Azeroth is huge. It utterly dwarfs Northrend and Outlands combined. I have a hard time seriously imagining them somehow stitching something like this together...

Especially when Blizzard has reiterated over and over that they don't care much about low level content, because almost the entire playerbase spends almost all their time at level cap content.

Why completely revamp something that only single digit percentage of the playerbase is going to play with? (probably even less than 1%)

...

Or maybe I'm just being a cynic.


But with the introduction with two new races, and a whole bunch of new race/class combinations, it will motivate people to make new characters.

And Azeroth won't be so bad to re-make, especially if they've been working on it for some time now.

And it's "Outland". It's not plural.

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Fauche wrote:
But with the introduction with two new races, and a whole bunch of new race/class combinations, it will motivate people to make new characters.

And Azeroth won't be so bad to re-make, especially if they've been working on it for some time now.

And it's "Outland". It's not plural.

I'm holding my breath on it still. It's one of those things where like... unless you've actually seen Azeroth from the sky, it's hard to conceptualize just how utterly screwed up EVERYTHING is.

The world looks so perfect, so neat from the ground. But you go up into the air, and EVERYTHING breaks down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlMd0XzN4uc

Imagine this... and try to realize that this video is only touching on the tiniest fragment of the "Yeah it's fucked to hell"

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I know what Azeroth looks like between zones. Hell, I've travelled those lands plenty of times before.

I once found myself a passage behind the Sentinel's base in Ashenvale and travelled around the Barrens and Mulgore.

Plus I've used map viewers plenty of times.

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