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 Post subject: Re: The 3DS
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:34 am 
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Nintendo is a business.

Businesses say whatever they believe will secure the greatest profits, even if it means misleading their customers (businesses *can* get away with a degree of deception - and Nintendo is no exception).

I've thought the price drop on the 3DS was an indication of a forthcoming '3DS Lite' all along - I do believe they've dropped the price on the 3DS to try to sell as many units as possible before announcing the new model.


Also: has anybody got their free 20 games yet?

I've not heard anything and I visited the eShop before the deadline.

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 Post subject: Re: The 3DS
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:47 am 
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The NES games come September 1st, the GBA games November or December.
Also I don't believe that rumor about 3DS lite.

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 Post subject: Re: The 3DS
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:01 pm 
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And there's, you know, the statement from Nintendo themselves saying they won't do that.

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 Post subject: Re: The 3DS
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:03 pm 
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HA. That's a good one. 7 days away from announcing the DS lite, they said they had no plans for a redesign. 7 DAYS. it might even be less because i don't exactly remember.

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 Post subject: Re: The 3DS
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:03 pm 
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And there's, you know, the statement from Nintendo themselves saying they won't do that.

Because businesses never make written statements that they go back on.

Never.


Also what the guy above me said.

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 Post subject: Re: The 3DS
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:29 pm 
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And to add to all of that... Apparently Nintendo was meant to release a Full-List of the Ambassador's games in the middle of THIS month. Instead, they told us about how the games can be transferred and saved. Good old Nintendo :D

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 Post subject: Re: The 3DS
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But what would even be the point of a second circle pad? All it's even done for me on other consoles is change the angle.

And a 3DS Lite wouldn't really even be sensible, I mean the original itself is as good-looking and light as it gets. I don't think Nintendo would upgrade the hardware and RAM either, that would just make most games released after the redesign unplayable on the original 3DS, and I don't think Nintendo would do something that idiotic.

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 Post subject: Re: The 3DS
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I never got why people seem to think the next redesign will be a "3DS Lite," mainly for the reason stated by Zero. If anything, I could see the possibility of something like a 3DS XL. On the other hand, I can see Nintendo wanting to do an MacBook Air-type design, but since the technology is expensive I don't think it'll happen for a while, probably not in the 3DS' lifetime.
But really, the 3DS hasn't even been out for six months, a redesign seems like an odd thing to be thinking about right now. Even the DS Lite wasn't released until a year and a half after the original.


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 Post subject: Re: The 3DS
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:14 pm 
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And to add to all of that... Apparently Nintendo was meant to release a Full-List of the Ambassador's games in the middle of THIS month. Instead, they told us about how the games can be transferred and saved. Good old Nintendo :D


Nintendo said they'd reveal more information about the Ambassador Program. That caused news sites to speculate because they couldn't imagine Nintendo revealing anything BUT the other 10 games.

Too bad the other big questions that people were wondering was whether trading in your 3DS for a new color/upgrade/etc. would mean you'd lose the ambassador games and Nintendo decided to answer that, and the exact differences between the original versions of these games and the 3DS ports, and what to expect from the games coming out Sept. 1st compared to the finished games released in the eShop.

I'm calling bullshit on the "Lite" rumor. While it's not impossible for Nintendo to release a "Lite" at this time, I don't see a reason to (inb4 people bitch about the battery, which is an issue that totally needs a complete overhaul of the system to fix), and I think people are just too obsessed with the idea that Nintendo HAS to keep releasing upgraded versions of their consoles (and I bet the instant a 3DS Lite IS announced, people will already start bitching about the "3DSi").

And while we're on that matter, why the fuck does it even matter if Nintendo releases upgraded versions of the handhelds? Would anyone really want to be stuck with a Phat for 5 years as opposed to being able to get a Lite (or any upgrade that could fix problems that could be annoying or deal breakers), especially with the hinge issue, the toothpick stylus, and the sheer bulkiness of the daisies thing. I still remember when people bitched that Nintendo was FORCING them to buy an SP (because when the SP came out, it totally meant that the standard GBA was unusable), and that repeated with the Lite, the DSi, and the DSi XL. Just because Nintendo makes an upgraded version, doesn't mean you have to buy it. You're pop flyin' with your Phat? Don't buy a Lite. You don't want app-like games and you have a camera? Don't buy a DSi. Have a DSi? Don't buy a DSi XL.

Christ, I'm a huge Nintendo nerd and I don't even jump at half of these remakes. I never bought an SP, I got a Lite because my Phat was crapping out 2 years after the Lite came out, I got a DSi (and regreted it later) because I thought I'd like the downloaded games (would have been worth it if the virtual console was there), and I've never had the idea that I absolutely needed a DSi XL.

So you have a 3DS. The "3DS Lite" comes out. It does everything the 3DS does... but it's thinner... and has a longer battery. Would it really be worth it to the majority of 3DS owners to go out and upgrade? Is there anything Nintendo would have included in that deal that FORCED you to spend cheddar buying a newer version of something you already have? Why is it that people don't see these products and think that they're not for the people who already bought the system (for the most part), but are for the people who aren't convinced yet that the system is worth a purchase?

I swear, the stupidity of people when discussing handheld upgrades (not you guys, mostly on big gaming forums) are just as bad as the people who complain that they need to get the latest apple product and it's going to cost them a lot. if you have something that works for you, why would you need to get the latest and greatest version? And how is it the company's fault for releasing a variety of products for consumers?

It just baffles me...

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 Post subject: Re: The 3DS
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:37 pm 
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http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/0 ... _detailed/

Fuck yes I need to get a 3DS now.

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 Post subject: Re: The 3DS
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:26 am 
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Anyone think that the Super Smash Bros 4 game that was announced to be made after Kid Icarius: Uprising would be weird for the 3DS? Apparently it is for the 3DS and WiiU...

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 Post subject: Re: The 3DS
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:19 am 
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That reminded me of apple products too. A new iPhone comes out that is almost exactly like the last one save for a few changes? TAKE MY CHEDDAR.
Just, why? You already have almost exactly the same thing. Even if you trade it in you will pay hundreds of cheddar for pretty much the same thing again.
I completely agree with you. If it's not a complete new system, then it can play the same games like the normal 3DS, which is already really thin, light, sturdy and has cameras. The only thing that would be upgradable as I see it would be an XL version, which isn't too great if you think about it. Crispy's DSi XL is too big for my taste. Also the bigger screen makes the resolution blurry.

They should upgrade the software instead of hardware anyway. I want a browser that can copy+paste and/or has tabbed browsing. Maybe flash. :/ The hardware of the 3DS is good enough for doing that, there are already videos on the 3DS and the SD card could be used for loading the video.

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 Post subject: Re: The 3DS
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:41 am 
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Kamak wrote:
I'm calling bullshit on the "Lite" rumor. While it's not impossible for Nintendo to release a "Lite" at this time, I don't see a reason to (inb4 people bitch about the battery, which is an issue that totally needs a complete overhaul of the system to fix), and I think people are just too obsessed with the idea that Nintendo HAS to keep releasing upgraded versions of their consoles (and I bet the instant a 3DS Lite IS announced, people will already start bitching about the "3DSi").

There are issues with the 3DS other than the battery life - most notably the edges of the raised lower screen making score marks on the upper 3D screen through impacts/friction when kept in someone's pocket/bag.

Big design flaw - one that needs a complete design overhaul.

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 Post subject: Re: The 3DS
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Kamak wrote:
I'm calling bullshit on the "Lite" rumor. While it's not impossible for Nintendo to release a "Lite" at this time, I don't see a reason to (inb4 people bitch about the battery, which is an issue that totally needs a complete overhaul of the system to fix), and I think people are just too obsessed with the idea that Nintendo HAS to keep releasing upgraded versions of their consoles (and I bet the instant a 3DS Lite IS announced, people will already start bitching about the "3DSi").

There are issues with the 3DS other than the battery life - most notably the edges of the raised lower screen making score marks on the upper 3D screen through impacts/friction when kept in someone's pocket/bag.

Big design flaw - one that needs a complete design overhaul.


That would be cool so I reckon that the 3DS lite might actually be a possibility in the future since the 3DS has flaws.

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 Post subject: Re: The 3DS
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Big design flaw - one that needs a complete design overhaul.


Making the bottom screen a little lower/ the bumpers on the upper screen bigger is a complete design overhaul?

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