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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:16 am 
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By the way parents are the problem. that cant, and shouldnt, be stoped in court. Parents need to know when their own kid is mature enough to play M games. my parents let me play any they OKed when i was 15. I was mature enough to see that it is a game. my brother who is 15, like i was, is restricted from playing violent M rated games as he is not mature enough. I do think that games can have some affect on some kids, but it isnt the cause of violence, just 1 more thing adding to the fire like movies and music. I belive my parents had it right the way they did it, but they may have held off to late for me seeing as how i still wouldnt be allowed to plat god of war and i am almost 18. ask dragoon or Corisedai if I am violent or a jerk in real life, they, if not joking would say no. Parents watch your kids when they are tearing heads of of naked women in the streets and using their spine as a giant comb for their huge PANK afro. That should make most parents think twise about letting 12 year old joney play murder+gore=sex 3

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I generally don't have a massive interest in violent games - I mean I buy games like Metroid, but I think that's more to do with Samus and the franchise than with the violent elements of the game.

Games like CoD and stuff like that really don't draw my interest at all; I'd rather spend my time catching and nurturing Pocketto Mon (the less said about making them fight other Pocketto Mon the better).

Reading the comments on the previous page make me think the kind of games I buy are probably a direct reflection of my personality.

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I play all types of games, violent and not. I think that, just like violent movies, parents should make sure their kids are ready for it. Games like call of duty would be T without blood and language (5 would be, in my opinion ultra violent, wait till 17 to play, 4 would not be due to lack of gore, just blood, ok at 15 if a mature kid who) I was playing COD3 on my wii, rated T, has little blood and language but same violence. Is this bad for a 13 year old to play. If a game is rated M and has a long list of reasons, it probably isnt best suted for young teens. Halo Reach is M for blood and violence, i think this would be ok for a mature young teen to play, say 14 years.

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Age limit is all fine and good, but if parents paid attention to their kid and figured they could handle a game that was rated M, then it'd be okay. But you have the whiny 13 year old over Xbox live calling everyone faggots, which shouldn't exist, but they do. Why? Because parents fail to give a shit or handle maturity or discipline properly. Does this mean all kids under the age of 18 are immature snot nosed shits? Of course not, but they just get more media attention because it is a problem and thus the bruised apple ruins the bunch. Somewhere down that line, parents believe it was video games themselves that caused children to act that way, and not that they were previous like that due to other children, how parents deal with them, strictness on their life, or other entertainment. Movies, music and games are all enablers of such, the kids grew up into little shits and they only promote their behavior. If parents were to make sure their kid wasn't being a brat or and idiot, and instead mature, then the ratings system would be moot!


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Yeah, I'd lean toward this whole bill being the result of being bad parents not wanting to take responsibility for being bad parents.

It's all to easy to blame movies, games and teh intornot for the way their children behave, regardless of the fact their children would still be causing havoc without those influences.

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I'm so sick of parents playing the Blame Game. Why can't they admit their own shortcomings and make an effort to change their lifestyle?

Because CHANGE is HARD. It's so much easier to blame video games than to admit that you're doing a crap job of raising your child.

"OHMYGOSH LITTLE JOHNNY JUST SAID THE F WORD HE MUSTA HEARD IT FROM ALL THOSE VIDYA GAMES HE PLAYS!!"

*meanwhile husband is in the background swearing like a sailor*

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I would like to point out that i belive, even if it hasnt sounded like it, that entertainment does inflwence kids. If a kid is brought up playing GTA and watching R ratsd movies and the parents dont care what the kid is doing it will be bad. The games and movies will be like the parent, saying what is right and wrong. but, even if a parent lets kids play/watch entertainment like that, if they point out flaws and limit time a kid will grow up beliving its wrong, only if limited stricktly.I was watching son PG13 movies when i was young but always with my parents, and thry would be like, "dont yoy ever do that" or "People dont do that in real life" i was tought earlie that movies/other are fake and only to be enjoyed not practiced. Does anyone agree with me that this style is the way to go so you dont just dump an R rated movie on a sheltered kid and he doesnt know what to do, but also so a kid learns screens show fake things that shouldnt be tried in real life because they are impractical or illegal, or people will hate you if you act like that.

(i think i have writen 4000 words total in 2 hours on my wii, im done tonight, hope you enjoyed my point of view)

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Once again, parents are the ones giving their children access to those 'PG-13' materials. Parents are the door to the world: They can open and expand your world slowly, one step at a time, when they think you're mature enough...or they can cop out and throw the door open all at once, not caring what their kids see.

My family likes to have Friday movie night. When I was little and IF my parents chose a PG-13 or R rated movie for that night, they'd let me get my own movie to watch, like Pokemon or something.

It was age-appropriate material that my parents knew I was ready for.

But once, when my movie finished early and they were still watching theirs (Towering Inferno, I think; definitely not kid stuff), I came downstairs and my dad paused the movie while we sat for a while and talked, then resumed the movie after mom had sent me to bed.

THAT is good and effective parenting: monitoring your child's media input and ensuring that it is proper for their age group.

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Good, and that is why we are talking about this using logic, we were raised the right way. Be funny to see a noob kid who never learned how to act talk about this.
Also you can turn out good with parents that werent careful, and the other way around, but i belive this problem is caused by to many parents not caring, which would have a higher chance of acting wrong.

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You have to also understand that the reason parents don't own up to their kids being bad is because they don't want to face the stigma of being a "bad parent".

They reach a point where they've catered so much to their child's every whim that the child develops a complex where they can have whatever they want, and if they don't get it they can throw a fit until they do. The parent, wanting to appease their child so no one finds out, gets them what they want without much discretion but then whoops, what you bought your kid is actually really inappropriate, but it's not your fault, it's totally the video game company's with their labels and "you have to be eighteen to buy an M-rated game" restrictions.

I think this thread is pretty much everyone saying the same thing in a slightly different way. Does anyone have any new viewpoints?

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I think this thread is pretty much everyone saying the same thing in a slightly different way. Does anyone have any new viewpoints?


VIDYA GAMES SUXXX THEY TURNED LITTLE JOHNNY INTO A POTTY-MOUTHED PUNK EMO GANGSTER MOB.





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Let's start a counter-bill that forces bad parents to admit they are bad parents.

Also they have to have their names entered into a 'Bad Parents Register' and attend rehabilitation therapy to turn them into good parents who admit their faults and stop blaming their shortcomings on extraneous media.


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Maybe start a Bad Parents Anonymous?

"My name is xxx and I am a Bad Parent...I bought my eight year old Left4dead...and blamed the video game company for it!"
*gaaasp*


Yes. I think parents like that need a good slap to the face. They should realize that the way their kid acts can be traced all the way back to them!

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What is it with bad parents and scapegoating

I mean seriously, didn't they do the exact same thing back in the 80's, only with rock music?


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