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 Post subject: Re: Overwatch: Blizzard does a Pew Pew shooty game
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 7:29 pm 
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I must be the outlier here because I've gotten a ton of play of the games, mostly as Reaper but I got a Genji ult team wipe once and a D.va ult POTG. As I go further along though I notice that most POTG's are just Bastion's sitting in a corner holding LMB.

On that note Reaper and D.va are my favorite hero's so far even if D.va's shit right now. I'm pretty good with Reaper as long as fucking McCree isn't on the other team.

and also on that note, fuck McCree, his flashbang is such bullshit. AOE Stun that comes out near instantly and combo's directly into an instant kill from his RMB. bodaciously the anti-fun character.


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 Post subject: Re: Overwatch: Blizzard does a Pew Pew shooty game
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 8:16 pm 
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BoompigXD The Ork wrote:
and also on that note, fuck McCree, his flashbang is such bullshit. AOE Stun that comes out near instantly and combo's directly into an instant kill from his RMB. bodaciously the anti-fun character.


the flashbang goes like five feet total. besides, if you're a reaper, you do not fight mccree anyway. that's a bad idea. you fight the tanks who you flanked or that mercy who got a little too far behind. mccree is designed and designated as the "fuck up a single person at a time upfront" guy, just about everyone is gonna lose an outright fight with him. you gotta catch him off guard and from a distance.

also the anti-fun character is widowmaker.

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 Post subject: Re: Overwatch: Blizzard does a Pew Pew shooty game
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 10:05 pm 
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I've had just enough time to try it out to play through the first eight or so classes on the practice course. Junk's looking like he's gonna be my fave, Widow I need to try in live combat but I'm feeling pretty lethal with, and Bastion could possibly be my best character. Torb feels like a really poor man's version of the Engineer, only having the one sentry upgrade, not to mention super clunky when every other character so far can use all their attacks without switching weapons.


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 Post subject: Re: Overwatch: Blizzard does a Pew Pew shooty game
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 11:03 pm 
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I would say Bastion is absolutely awful to play against but it's really fun to go Genji against a Bastion, deflect all his shots back at him, and killing him.

Still, worst match I've had so far is Symmetra with 6 sentries spread out, Torbjörn with a turret, and Bastion camping in a corner. It was god daisies awful, they won but it was such a cheap move.

On the subject of anti-fun, Mei qualifies on some maps. I personally don't enjoy playing her and in close quarter maps, I absolutely hate it when someone's playing her.

The top 3 anti-fun for me would be Mei, Pharah and Widowmaker.


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 Post subject: Re: Overwatch: Blizzard does a Pew Pew shooty game
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 11:33 pm 
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If the Symmetra was called Lacune, *waves* that was a very fun match and I think I'mma love the shit out of Symmetra. Way better turret situation. Like being able to stick mini-sentries all the fuck over the place.


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 Post subject: Re: Overwatch: Blizzard does a Pew Pew shooty game
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 11:53 pm 
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Genji is an interesting character, he's more born to be a nuisance than an outright danger to someone up close, and tests them to see if they can keep up with him. Double jump spamming is really great because it makes him even harder to hit up-close, so mediocre Reaper's and roadhogs can have a problem with him.

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 Post subject: Re: Overwatch: Blizzard does a Pew Pew shooty game
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 11:59 pm 
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Galaxy Man wrote:
BoompigXD The Ork wrote:
and also on that note, fuck McCree, his flashbang is such bullshit. AOE Stun that comes out near instantly and combo's directly into an instant kill from his RMB. bodaciously the anti-fun character.


the flashbang goes like five feet total. besides, if you're a reaper, you do not fight mccree anyway. that's a bad idea. you fight the tanks who you flanked or that mercy who got a little too far behind. mccree is designed and designated as the "fuck up a single person at a time upfront" guy, just about everyone is gonna lose an outright fight with him. you gotta catch him off guard and from a distance.

also the anti-fun character is widowmaker.


I know who to go after as Reaper, and I understand that Reaper can't go up against McCree.

My problem is, is that it's not just Reaper who can't go up against McCree. It's that fucking nobody with the exception of Widowmaker can go up against McCree because McCree's flashbang allows no oppurtunity to counterplay or do anything once he throws it because you can't fucking dodge it and he kills you as soon as it hits. He is the universal counter to everything that can't shoot him from two cities away. Reinhardt trying to charge him? Flashbang mid-charge and RMB. Tracer trying to dance around him? Flashbang and RMB. Soldier 76 trying to outrange him? Roll into cover, Flashbang, RMB. Roadhog hooked him? Flashbang as soon as the hook ends and RMB. It makes him infuriating to play against and boring to play as since he's basically just free kill central. Flashbang to get free ult. Your ult which is again, just more free kills. The only skill needed to play McCree is the skill of, stay indoors/near control points and win every engagement outside of getting 1v3ed.

In happier news, I'm getting pretty good at Mercy. Guardian Angel seemed so trash at first but it's legit one of the best movement skills if you've got a Phraoh/Tracer/High Mobility Hero on your team. Damage boosting Bastions turn them into such delicious killing machines.


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 Post subject: Re: Overwatch: Blizzard does a Pew Pew shooty game
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2016 12:05 am 
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In most cases when I get hooked, the Roadhog already kills me before I can even flashbang him unless his aim is lacking.

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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2016 8:39 am 
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Genji's fairly good at countering McCree if you time your deflect right. You can deflect his flashbang back at him and burst him. But you still have to be very good at dodging though to keep out of his quick trigger.

I even had someone get mad and insult me about it because I kept deflecting his flashbangs and bullets, which I find noteworthy due to communication not being that frequent in the game.


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 Post subject: Re: Overwatch: Blizzard does a Pew Pew shooty game
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2016 2:20 pm 
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In most cases, 3 shurikens to the head and a blade swipe helps in offing a McCree, but oyu gotta have godlike reaction time to be able to reflect a flashbang back at McCree, but it should almost always result in a kill.

Also reflecting against a Bastion and killing them is one of the best things ever.

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 Post subject: Re: Overwatch: Blizzard does a Pew Pew shooty game
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2016 3:14 pm 
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not to mention 76 shouldn't fight mccree anywhere near his flashbang range, and him rolling into cover isn't gonna let him throw the flash. it doesn't have a large radius, and if he peeks to throw it then 76 can light him up. not to mention 76's rockets shred him.

hell, any character with range can destroy mccree because mccree doesn't have any range. his bullets always go straight but they have solid damage falloff and he's basically useless in mid-range encounters.

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 Post subject: Re: Overwatch: Blizzard does a Pew Pew shooty game
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2016 8:11 pm 
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I just got to play some of the beta and I like it so far.

I got shoehorned into Reinhardt to begin with, and I really like the play style, but it's infuriating when nobody takes advantage of his shield and uses it to push up with.

D.Va is also a lot of fun to play, but her E is underwhelming. Shift is fun though, and awesome in combination with the ult.

Zarya is great fun and awesome in close maps. The E is a bit annoying as you have to turn to point at one of your team mates, which is impractical when you should be the front line. Also, my first impression was that the laser had infinite range, but no. Took me a while to understand why people weren't dying when I was shooting at them.

Mercy is cool, but pretty boring. I like her shift, but she doesn't really have any other abilities apart from the ult. It's basically; stay behind cover and keep shooty button pressed. Press Q whenever your target dies.

Bastion was pretty boring to play as. A lot of damage, but not much in the way of actual interesting mechanics. You move and shoot, sit down and shoot, or ult and move and shoot. Nearly every game I played had Bastion as the highlight as he's just so retardedly easy to get a large amount of kills in a short time if you set up near a choke point or point of interest.


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 Post subject: Re: Overwatch: Blizzard does a Pew Pew shooty game
PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2016 2:54 am 
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i like bastion for the sustain. even without shift, the ability to repair after ducking behind a corner is pretty good on both attack and defense

also -really- getting into roadhog. had an amazing healer on londong, defending. did not die once and had 11 kill streak. as a tank i call that a success

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 Post subject: Re: Overwatch: Blizzard does a Pew Pew shooty game
PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2016 8:47 am 
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I just played my first round. I'm getting that feeling I had when I first started TF2. It's beautiful.

I played Reinhardt on a Payload map in defense. That barrier is pretty daisies resilient. I had to hold out for like a minute against half the enemy team until my guys got there to stop the advance.

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 Post subject: Re: Overwatch: Blizzard does a Pew Pew shooty game
PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2016 11:33 am 
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Brekkjern wrote:
Bastion was pretty boring to play as. A lot of damage, but not much in the way of actual interesting mechanics. You move and shoot, sit down and shoot, or ult and move and shoot. Nearly every game I played had Bastion as the highlight as he's just so retardedly easy to get a large amount of kills in a short time if you set up near a choke point or point of interest.


the idea is as bastion is to not just sit somewhere because that's how you die. you gotta take advantage of the ability to roam. set up, kill a few guys, stand up and move forward and then kill everyone who's looking where you used to be.

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