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How can you be that far gone that you compare a game with an actual plot to something like Sengoku Rance in which your actual stated goal is to have sex with as many women in Japan as you can, with NO regards whether it's consensual sex or not?
Oh, sure, I hear Sengoku Rance has really enjoyable gameplay and cheeky writing. It doesn't excuse that it's a game in which your goal is have sex with people - and, if you need to, abuse them.

Since you had an attempt to make a point by comparing "porn game: let's rape everyone!" to GTAV, lemme say this:
It IS unfortunate that many games out there centre around violence/ killing as main gameplay mechanics. However, good games have that gameplay serve and follow the narrative, and vice-versa. Max Payne 3 is a game where you kill a lot of people, and that doesn't stop the game from having an awesome (literally) and emotional narrative - because they're linked in a way that makes the narrative only possible through the gameplay, and the gameplay is given meaning, weight, through the narrative. It's not perfect ("south-american people are savages ooga booga!" and "oh no let's save the distressed woman!") but it has great strengths that make up for these clichés.
The gameplay in Rance would be made better if your character's goal wasn't to have sex with as many females as he could. The narrative in Rance would have some interest if the game didn't reward you based on how many females you had sex with. I'm not saying that because I don't like porn games - I'm saying that because the game fetishizes rape.

If you try to say someone is hypocritical for liking a game that has murder in it but disliking a game in which your end goal is rape, let me say this: You're out of your damn mind.

I don't necessarily disagree with anything you've said Great Handsome Oppressor except that the game shouldn't be reviewed, if the game has serious issues then those are worth pointing out.

True.

I can't believe I'm getting into an argument about this of all things, but if you actually played the games you'd know they have an interesting plot. Rance prefers consensual, and as the series goes along, he's less and less about the rape because he has actual character development and matures. Yes, it's a porn series, but I don't know anyone who actually cares much for the porn bits. They're okay, but it's always been the story and gameplay that makes them fun for me(except the first two, but those are incredibly old and dated, so much so that a recap was made so people don't need to play them). It's meant to be a fairly lighthearted thing overall, with some emotional bits that actually make you interested in the story.

Overall, to rephrase what you said:
Rance is a series where you fuck a lot of women, and that doesn't stop the game from having an awesome (bodaciously) and emotional narrative - because they're linked in a way that makes the narrative only possible through the gameplay, and the gameplay is given meaning, weight, through the narrative.

Somewhere along the thread we went off on a huge tangent about a topic that has little to do with the purpose of this thread or the topic at hand which is that... a small startup site reviewed a porn game? I'm actually not sure how this was news-worthy at all, but I did express my interest in reading such reviews since I actually have very little experience with these games and the agenda-driven "journalism" that we have would've never made neutral reviews of any of these games, so that's one point in favor of Goodgamers. I only gave Rance as an example, it could've been MGQ or any other more popular porn game, I haven't played any of them so informative reviews of the games are in order because I want to see objective measures of what these games are like.

I can understand the sentiment of wanting to see more porn games reviewed, but the criticism isn't really that they are reviewing a porn game alone. It's more that when you are starting up you're Cool 90's Game-space that's really going to reform the media's journalism and make it about "Just the Games," it's sorta a poor first move to review a porn game. It's just sorta unprofessional to begin there, when it might be more fitting to review an AAA game that they felt got bolstered reviews, and not immediately wallow in your own interests.

Granted, there is still a place for that kind of thing. But I would expect that to be a website dedicated to porn game reviews, so that it was just a place I could go to specifically for porn game reviews. I could understand if the reviewers were trying to foster a more sex-positive atmosphere, but considering that their other reviews include things like Infamous:SS and Lethal League I doubt it's any of those things. I think a guy wanted to review a porn game and didn't think about the messages that would send.


More then being unprofessional for reviewing a porn game, I think the website is just unprofessional in general. The writing is just straight-up bad. Like,

Is just a bad sentence and the exact kind of dreck I expect to lazily slide into a Kotaku review, not the performance I would expect from people aiming to reform the industry Kotaku reviews thrive in. The actual visual layout is kinda bad and looks like an early-2000s webcomic site. I suppose that last point is excusable, though, considering that they are just starting up.

A lot of the ideas the projects like this site are associated with are just toxic in general, anyway. There's this movement to reduce the conversation on "SJW" issues, which seems to me like censorship, the kind of thing these guys complain about all the time. I definitely think that the way the industry treats issues of social justice is mostly a sensationalist and bad way that doesn't actually solve any problems and mostly states the obvious. At the same time, quieting that discussion doesn't improve anything, those kinds of criticism are a necessary part of a productive medium, but we just need actual good criticism instead of the half-assed complaining about boob armor schickt most review sites pull every month or so.

I don't even understand the need to make fuss about such a minor site, the internet's filled with small blog-like sites like these and I don't see how this one's important.

Apparently all threads relating to GamerGate are being deleted off 4chan, the feedback link is 404'd, and users asking questions are being banned too. Of all the messed up things they permit on that site, THIS is the one thing that's not?

Ignore

Friendly reminder that 99% of GamerGate threads were on /v/, a work safe board

Also those threads were being spammed constantly. I support the cause but holy shit they were made every single day

Ah, yeah? Well, I can understand then. Have ONE THREAD and that's it seems ideal. Though, honestly, I shouldn't speak much about 4Chan, considering I don't know how the hell to navigate through that.

They're getting deleted because there were several threads all going at the same time.
I think by tomorrow there will probably be some up again.

Like what?

Pretty sure that's referring to things posted on /b/, in which case you don't want to know.

I'm still curious about what you think is allowed on /b/ then. What's posted is an entirely different matter of course.