AWKWARD ZOMBIE

The Sunreavers stole the Eye of Eternity from the Nexus and helped the Horde make it into a mana bomb that wiped out Theramore in all realities and timelines. They then were allowed to stay when their leader claimed it had been a rebel group of them. They then used the Dalaran portals to get the Divine Bell to Darnassus for the Horde to attack.

It is not bullshit that Jaina then decided to kick the lot of them out with extreme prejudice considering what they pulled.

another correction: some of the sunreavers stole it. im pretty sure the civilians that jainas zapping into violet hold were all evil collaborators.

a few bad eggs does not spoil an entire bunch

lets also not forget that the blood elves really DIDNT want to be apart of the horde, it was more like wellshit we cant survive without the alliance we HAVE to go to the horde cause they are pretty much the biggest racists in wow. a excellent quote from the leader of the BE: "The horde exists because of the alliance"

another fact to not forget but lets put it in spoilers cause its part of the plot line in dominance offensive the head honcho of the BE really doesnt want to be apart of the horde, hes trying to get OUT of the horde, then the shit in dalaran happens. he hates that blood elves went and died for the bell and tells them to get it out of his sight, too many lives have been lost over it.

also remember, the kirin tor is supposed to be neutral. jaina is pretty much strong arming it because she wants revenge.

Doesn't matter if they're part of the conspiracy or not. The Sunreavers shat upon the neutrality of the Kirin Tor twice and they're being punished for it. Eventually the individuals can be interrogated and tried, but for now anyone under the label is an enemy of Dalaran. Bad eggs may not spoil the bunch but they don't have time to pick through the eggs before the rotten ones escape.

While it is kind of unfortunate that the actions in Dalaran stopped the blood elves from leaving the Horde, keep in mind that Varian told Jaina nothing despite them both conversing rather freely back and forth. It's not like she can't keep a secret. From her perspective she sees the blood elves abuse the neutrality of the Kirin Tor twice and she's not about to let there be a third time.

The Kirin Tor always had an Alliance slant, they simply allowed the Sunreavers the privilege of having a notable presence during the Nexus War due to the necessity of the Horde's aid

A privilege they abused for Garrosh's sake

Also: the Alliance exists because of the Horde, not the other way around

The Horde was formed on Draenor as a genocidal war machine

Hasn't really changed, tbh

To be fair, that was the old Horde comprised mostly of Orcs. Later they added jungle trolls (not the Darkspear tribe) and Ogres. After the 2nd war, that horde was broken apart and all the Orcs put into internment camps, where Thrall was raised (and abused).

The new Horde was put together by Thrall during the third war, when the Orcs saved the Darkspear tribe from the sea-witch and helped the Tauren get to Mulgore. Noboby was pleased about letting the Forsaken join. Darkspear trolls and especially Tauren really wouldn't be too pleased with genocide. If Blizzard put that in it would be some awful derailment of character.

terr has the right of it. that was the horde back when you know, they were all enslaved to demons basically. then again it seems some ally players are too set in their hatred to understand.

maybe you guys should call garrosh, im sure you'd have alot to kill about

Oh, I know about about the demon blood; apparently its a full excuse for anything and everything bad the orcs have done

From wiping out 80% of the Draenei to obliterating Stormwind to waging their war against the Alliance of Lordaeron for Azeroth to the death of Cenarius

Its never THEIR fault, its demon blood

Despite Orgrim never having drank it, but whatever, the orcs are innocent, forever

I don't think anyone actually said that.

My apologies, but I always get really frustrated when it discussing the actions of the Horde

Its never ever the Horde's fault and they are always victims and underdogs and augh

Whatever Grom Hellscream did to save the Orcs from their curse, he's also the one who got them into that situation to begin with. He may have been an amazing warrior, he was also a huge blow-hard who didn't have the sense of mind to comply with his Warchief's orders.

I got this today in sunwell
Mad noffle?

Leveling my shaman, healing in LFD

People are stupid

Second 90. Human Priest. This is momentous because ever since I leveled a priest back in Classic I hated it so much I never rolled one again. Then I ran a poll on the Wyrmrest Accord forums as to what class I should level next and it won the vote. So I don't hate priests now.

Next up is a hunter. The one class I have never gotten past forty.

Got my Worgen Druid to lv 71. Only 900g from swift flight as well, mainly cause a friend of mine was nice enough to lend me some gold.

All I have to say is, holy fuck people are stupid in dungeons. One run had 2 people that broke gear. One was the tank. The other? The fucking healer. I mean, what? We wiped a couple of times, but even my gear was no were near being broken. Then there was another run where an unholy DK decided to tank and we had a hell of a time kicking him.
You know what, I think I'll just quest for a few levels.

I tried soloing Oculus earlier in the day
I almost had it but couldnt get it right
Then, right now, before I went to bed, it hit me. I figured out how to do everything just right.

Start fight on dragon, lure him to ground level, fly up so when your dragon dies you parachute for a bit before landing so he doesn't despawn, fight normally until dragon dies, then you can start the fight on land like a normal boss.
And they said it couldn't be done.