AWKWARD ZOMBIE

I think ganon gets a taste of the triforce of power and succumbs to the power so link will have to go get/forge(or gather the materials for it. thus the dungeons of the game) the master sword to stop him. so he seals ganon away, stuff happens and he returns in OoT

got stuck in a room in Oracle of Ages

rage quit after an hour
picked it up today

felt so good to notice the bomb wall


I think I'm addicted.

I got stuck in the Fortress of the Winds in Minish Cap for a while because I didn't notice a wall that could be bombed open.

I think that Ganondorf and Ganon are different beings. But Ganon had taken control of Ganondorf Dragmire, gaining a human form, and, by extentsion, made Ganondorf evil. Ganon himself, however is pretty much the physical form of evil.

Also, Ganon is shown only weak to Silver Arrows. Both the games the true Ganon (not Ganondorf or the mindless beast from the Oracle games In both A Link to the Past and the original Legend of Zelda the Silver Arrows were the only way to kill him. The Master Sword soley stunned him.

Heh, sorry, I didn't really see your timeline, as when I went through that page, I really didn't feel like reading a whole ton of stuff.

I feel like Ganondorf was just raised to be Ganon's perfect incarnation by his evil moms and stuff.

As far as I can surmise, Ganon only has the ability to posess beings who already have great magical prowess and evil desires, like Agahnim or Ganondorf (also wasn't the antagonist from Twilight Princess a sorcerer in the Twilight realm?). It could be said that even Majora's Mask could have been an offshoot of his evil power, or even a rival entity.

Also, I think that the Wind Fish from Link's Awakening could have been 'the truth' and Ganon could have summoned Koholint to keep Link occupied forever while he destroyed the Hyrule royal family or something else insidious and bad.

Link and Wolf Link are not separate beings. Ganondorf and Ganon are not separate beings. Simple as that.

Okay, that reasoning is absolutely horrible. I'm sorry, but they made it quite clear how and why Link turns into a wolf when exposed to the Twilight Realm's magic, whereas Ganon's history isn't explained all that well.. My theory of Ganon and Ganondorf being seperate beings is how I see the story, and the best explanation of how Ganon doesn't die when Ganondorf does. Link was turned into a wolf because his Triforce of Courage gave him a "resistance" to the Twilight Realm's power.

Everyone has opinions though. You don't have to correct someone when they give their theories. Maybe state your own, but not say that their's is wrong..

If Ganondorf was in fact posessed by Ganon, then he suddenly turns from a horrible villain into a sympathetic vessel. It's strange to think about.

Here's an interesting idea: maybe Ganon was drawn to Ganondorf because of the man's lust for power, and when Ganondorf entered the Sacred Realm, Ganon imbued him with his power. This enabled Ganondorf to transform into the terrible beast at the end of OoT before he was defeated again.

Wait, didn't Ganondorf become Ganon due to entering and corrupting the Sacred Realm and obtaining the Triforce of Power in OoT?

Because I'm sure that Ganondorf and Ganon are the same character.

That's my usual line of thinking.

But then I remember that Ganon appeared in the Four Swords games, which is theorized to have taken place before Ocarina of Time. That's why I'm not really sure what to think.

I've never played the Four Swords titles, but I've heard that those games are very hard to figure out wear they could fall in the timeline since they have inconsistencies with the other titles or something. Like, Minish Cap is often put at the beginning, but there are Moblins in that game, which (if I'm right) were created by Ganon/Ganondorf. But Ganon/Ganondorf's not supposed to have even been born yet if Minish Cap really is in the beginning of the timeline. (or was, since Skyward Sword is confirmed to be the first since it deals with the founding of Old Hyrule)

With Ganon and Ganondorf being the same character, I'm pretty sure that it was ALttP that stated when Ganondorf entered the Sacred Realm, his presence corrupted it and turned it into the Dark World, turning him into the pig monster we all know because it reflected his "heart". (Much like when Link enters the Dark World for the first time, it turns him into a rabbit because he has the innocence of one or something like that)

Argh, I'm starting to ramble. As much as I love the Zelda series, trying to make everything consistent between the games makes me go

Do you even listen to yourself

Umm...Skyward Sword only deals with how the Master Sword was created, not the foundation of Old Hyrule. (Old Hyrule existed already in Minish Cap, which is where you play).

My reasoning of why The Minish Cap is first is also sustained by the lack of Master Sword on that game, as the Picori were the ones that gave the humans the Four Sword to repel the evil monsters. if the Master sword had already existed, they would have given the humans the Master Sword instead of creating a whole new sword that serves the same purpose (albeit with different powers)

also, and I'm not really sure, didnt Eiji Aunoma said that Skyward Sword was before OoT and that Minish Cap was the first one in the time line?

and back to the Ganondorf being Ganon...well...if that is what you believe...then how does Wind Waker Ganondorf fit into this? I mean, sure the Ganondorf and Ganon from Oot may be the same (at least during the period when Link is an adult) but then why there is no Ganon in WW?

Unless Puppet Ganon was...nah...

Also, I'm pretty sure Moblins were not created by Ganon, as Minish Cap tells us that all the monsters (including Moblins) were liberated from the sealed chest.

I was sure that someone (most likely Aonuma) said that Skyward Sword dealt with the founding of Hyrule.
But what you just said about the Minish Cap and the Master Sword, you're right. If Skyward Sword really does contain the story of the founding of Old Hyrule, then I'll be rustled because it'll cause conflict with The Minish Cap.

With Ganondorf,

From this, I've assumed that Ganondorf=Ganon.

However, this quote from this page seems to match up with what you're saying:

Also, with the Moblins, I think you're right. Looking them up, I can't find anything saying that they were created by Ganon.
(I just realized that I'm terrible at debating ''ORZ)