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 Post subject: Re: The Legend of Zelda
PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:37 am 
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I saw a thing about that on ZU.

So disappoint when I saw it was fake.

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 Post subject: Re: The Legend of Zelda
PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:39 am 
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I would buy it in a heartbeat if it were real.

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 Post subject: Re: The Legend of Zelda
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Same here.

Hey, did you guys know that I'm working on a Zelda fan game with a bunch of people from ZU? It's called 'Fused Destiny' and it's supposed to be a sequel of OoT and MM, bridging the gap between Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess.

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 Post subject: Re: The Legend of Zelda
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wasn't TP in another era?

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 Post subject: Re: The Legend of Zelda
PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:58 am 
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vealin99 wrote:
wasn't TP in another era?

Ocarina of Time was the "first" appearance of Ganondorf, storyline-wise.
Then at the end he was sealed in the spirit realm of whatever it was called (it has been a while).
I believe that in Twilight Princess (also been a while) he talks to Zant from the spirit realm and tells him to go fuck up Hyrule for being a dick to him in the past.
The end of Ocarina of Time is where everything split.
One storyline for if Link stayed as an adult and helped rebuild the kingdom, and another if he stayed as a child and went on from there.
If he stayed as a child we then have Majora's Mask, then Windwaker, Hourglass, and Spirit Tracks.

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 Post subject: Re: The Legend of Zelda
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i thought WW,PH, and ST were in timeline B(the one with adult link) because the evil returned and destroyed the kingdom

although, I believe Spirit tracks is in Timeline A(young link) due to the fact that there is a large amount of land, and I guess you could link minish cap to spirit tracks because Link and Zelda were friends in both those games.

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 Post subject: Re: The Legend of Zelda
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I dunno, I'd have to google the timelines but Spirit Tracks is a continuation of Phantom Hourglass, as evident by one of the side characters in PH (one of the pirates) showing up in ST as an old man who talks to the new ST Link and says he reminds him of the old PH Link he once knew.


Also the whole split timeline thing is entire fan speculation. Nintendo has neither confirmed nor denied nor shown any sign of caring about the split timeline thing.

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 Post subject: Re: The Legend of Zelda
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Here is a condensed version of my split-timeline theory. Most of my theory is similar to the theory that is widely accepted in the fanbase:

1. Skyward Sword, which explains the origins of the Master Sword and the founding of Old Hyrule.

In between SS and OoT, there are supposedly two wars: the Fierce War, which is mentioned in Twilight Princess and is stated to have led the the Hyrulean Civil war--which is the war mentioned in Ocarina of Time, where Link's mother dies. Which leads us right to...

2. Ocarina of Time. Link is given the task of finding the Spiritual Stones, Ganondorf makes his first appearance and obtains the Triforce of Power by breaking into the Sacred Realm. Once Link defeats Ganondorf, the timeline goes two ways--

The Adult Timeline

Once Link defeats Ganondorf, Zelda returns him to his own time. Therefore, Link is now officially gone and there is no hero. Hyrule find itself in peril once again, with no Link to save it, and the goddesses send the flood to wash Hyrule away. This leads us to...

3. Wind Waker. The world is flooded and there is still no hero, because nobody was granted the Triforce. Link finds the Master Sword and earns the Triforce along with Tetra/Zelda. They stab Ganondorf in the head with the Master Sword, turning him to stone, and now in the adult timeline, Ganondorf is officially dead. The Triforce is no longer held by Ganondorf, Zelda, or Link because of the King's wish, and Zelda and Link sail off to find New Hyrule. That leads us directly to

4. Phantom Hourglass, in which Link and Tetra are shipwrecked and must find a way to continue their search for New Hyrule. Other than being the direct sequel to WW, it doesn't have a lot of significance in the timeline. But it does lead us to the next game.

5. Spirit Tracks. Set 100 years after WW and in New Hyrule, with new legends and new demons. Other than that, the only thing significant about this game is that it's back on dry land. Ganondorf is still dead and the Triforce is still gone.

6. The Legend of Zelda. This is where my version of the timeline can become debatable. I believe that LoZ came many years later, in New Hyrule. Ganon makes his grand reappearance and the Triforce reappears, back up for grabs. However, the game is so vague that it's very hard to place, so this is a very loose statement. However, the game that takes place right after this is:

7. Adventure of Link. This is explicitly stated to take place months after LoZ. But, since the location of LoZ in the timeline is debatable, this is too.

So the Adult Timeline goes: OoT, WW, PH, ST, LoZ, AoL

Now we go back to Ocarina of Time.

Child Timeline.

Directly following Ocarina of Time is

3. Majora's Mask. It's the same Link, sent back in time to his past. My theory is that he goes back to Zelda so he can warn her of Ganondorf's plan to trick her. He then leaves to go to Termina...perhaps to train in anticipation of Ganondorf, as well as track down Navi. However, even though Ganondorf does not get into the Sacred Realm, he invades anyway and the Sages try to execute him. However, perhaps because of the tampering done in the Adult Timeline, Ganon gets the Triforce of Power anyway and kills the Water Sage. The rest of the Sages seal him away into the Twilight Realm. Many years pass, Link returns to Hyrule and eventually the next game takes place, which is:

4. Twilight Princess. Set in Old Hyrule, with Ganon sealed away into the Twilight realm. He escapes (again) and Link must face him again, having been granted the Triforce of Courage. Link is also aided by the Hero's Shade, which is possibly the ghost of a Link that never got to pass his techniques down to the next generation.

Here's where my timeline runs a bit wild...keep in mind that these games here could go either way.

5. Link to the Past. This can actually go either way, because it not only takes place in Old Hyrule, but it also involves a place called the Dark World, which used to be the Sacred Realm before Ganondorf got the Triforce. However, I'm placing it here.

6. the Oracle games, which take place after the Triforce is whole and once again in possession of the Royal family. It also includes the attempted resurrection of Ganon. This game was designed to take place between LttP and...

7. Link's Awakening. This would have gone after LttP if the Oracle games had not been designed to go between them. Link is shipwrecked on an island and must awaken the Wind Fish, only to wake up.

Child Timeline: OoT, MM, TP, Lttp, OoX, LA

Other games can be placed at different points in this timeline. I personally believe that Minish Cap was the very first game in the timeline. There's no Ganon, No Triforce, and no Master Sword. It explains why Zelda and her bloodline are so powerful with a legend that predates the game, and it even answers the question of how rupees and items get into the grass and bushes: The Minish did it. Additionally, it involves the appearance and sealing of Vaati, who is revived in Four Swords, and it also includes the forging of the actual Four Sword.

Tl; dr, I am a huge Zelda nut and actually spent time thinking about this stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: The Legend of Zelda
PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:16 am 
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I don't really care for the timeline aside from OoT, MM, PH, WW, ST, and TP because they all have definitive places (your split-timeline was spot-on btw). Minish Cap and the Four Swords games are kind of in their own little world on some separate timeline. The others, idc. I don't worry about it because that's a waste of time.

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 Post subject: Re: The Legend of Zelda
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[Citation Needed] wrote:
Also the whole split timeline thing is entire fan speculation. Nintendo has neither confirmed nor denied nor shown any sign of caring about the split timeline thing.


Actually, Eiji Aunoma was the one that confirmed the Split timeline for OoT.

If the producer of the Zelda games says so, I guess it counts as confirmed.

NOW, how the Timeline actually goes is another thing that it still in debate.

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That's how I see the timeline too Cori xD except I would put Minish cap at the very top, then 4 Swords and the Skyward Sword.

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 Post subject: Re: The Legend of Zelda
PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:18 pm 
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Well, I did state that I put Minish Cap first, then Four Swords. I just mentioned them in the last part of my post because they don't have anything to do with the split timeline.

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 Post subject: Re: The Legend of Zelda
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timeline: Minish cap-four swords adventure-skyward sword-zelda 1-zelda 2-OoT-timesplit

Young link era: majoras mask-links awakening-Link to the past-?????(i'll figure this one out)-Oracle of ages/seasons-and thats all I got
adult link era: ganon is unsealed and attacks-world flooding-wind waker-phantom hour glass- spirit tracks-twighlight princess
( i know I forgot games I just can't remember them)

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 Post subject: Re: The Legend of Zelda
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...are you going to explain your reasoning?

Why do LoZ and AoL come between SS and OoT? Why do you say Link's Awakening comes after Majora's Mask? Why is Twilight Princess in the adult timeline?

Your timeline makes no sense vealin. Did you look at mine?

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 Post subject: Re: The Legend of Zelda
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eh idk my reasoning isn't the very best

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 Post subject: Re: The Legend of Zelda
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So I just got into Oracle of Ages and am having sort of a blast, why haven't any other Zelda games been this fun for me?

I might actually try to finish this one.

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