Things you hate about video games

Badfish · **Joined:** Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:52 pm **Posts:** 3480

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I have to agree with Plasma. Your arguments are basically like saying the Sniper is overpowered because he can beat every class when you put them at the opposite ends of a long, flat map. I can name a way for every class to take down a pyro.

Also, you idea to balance the pyro is incredibly unbalanced. If the Pyro had both a slower moving speed and shorter range, it would be almost useless. Every single class except a heavy and maybe a demoman and soldier would be able to just walk away. The pyro would become useless against any class with 100% speed or more because they could just backpedal away while firing. and the pyro, due to its slower speed and shorter range, would not be able to catch them.

On an unrelated note, I hate it when, in an RPG or related type game, you discover that choices you made early in the game have put you at a huge disadvantage.

That's why a pyro is not suppose to chase any classes. Ambush, ambush, ambush. The flamethrower does enough damage close range, that if you catch any class off guard you will be able to kill him! The nerf wouldmake it so the pyro HAS to rely on ambushing. With the state of pyros now any hyped 10-year can go ape shit in a group of enemies and actually have a good chance of survival. There's no need to ambush, just charge and ignite it's ALL they need to do. Oh sure there's compression blast but the pyros lack of depth makes it a very simple, very boring , and very overpowered class.

Fluffdick · **Posted:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:10 pm

How to help teammates with pryo:

1. Use the airblast to blast stickies alway from a friendly sentry
2. Airblast fire from burning teammates.
3. Flare gun snipers so the snipers go back to get health.

Plasma · **Posted:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:12 pm

Badfish wrote:

That's why a pyro is not suppose to chase any classes. Ambush, ambush, ambush.

Whoops, sorry! I forgot that when you get ambushed, its completely forbidden to attempt to run away.

Badfish wrote:

The flamethrower does enough damage close range, that if you catch any class off guard you will be able to kill him!

No it most certainly does not. To do that without giving the opponent time to run away, the flamethrower would have to outright kill the opponent in two seconds flat! THAT is most certainly not balanced!

Badfish wrote:

There's no need to ambush, just charge and ignite it's ALL they need to do.

Pyros that charge straight into unpreoccupied enemies, on nearly all cases, don't survive. That's pretty darn undisputable.

Badfish · **Joined:** Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:52 pm **Posts:** 3480

http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Pyro

Look at the damage calculation for the flamethrower

22.5 particles a second, 4-6.8 damage per particle.

That combined with the after burn is enough to kill any 125-150 hp class in a little under 2 seconds, 3 if they run away.

lyra/dicks · **Posted:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:12 pm

Airigh wrote:

Ignoring big TF2 discussion over there...

Games that require a lot of running around.

I love games that require lots of running around IF it has good graphics.

scebboaliwiw · **Posted:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:23 pm

Zink wrote:

choices you made early in the game have put you at a huge disadvantage.

This.

Plasma · **Posted:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:37 pm

scebboaliwiw wrote:

Zink wrote:

choices you made early in the game have put you at a huge disadvantage.

This.

Seconded.

Although really only when its a permanent disadvantage (aka: putting points in a stat or skill that is entirely useless) as opposed to a temporary disadvantage (aka: putting points in a stat or skill that is useless now, but that will be useful in the future that you'd put points in it sooner or later).

Or if the RPG actually has a good levelling up system whereby the time it takes to level up against the standard enemies for your level is constant, rather than the most common method of "low levels are fast, high levels take days to get", well then it's not such a bother either.

Defenestrator2.0 · **Posted:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:01 pm

Airigh wrote:

Ignoring big TF2 discussion over there...

Games that require a lot of running around.

Did somebody say Morrowind? Because I think I heard somebody say Morrowind.

Superior Bacon · **Posted:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:50 pm

MMOs where you have to wait to log out. In cities.

Fuck that shit forever.

Airigh · **Posted:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:56 pm

Defenestrator2.0 wrote:

Airigh wrote:

Ignoring big TF2 discussion over there...

Games that require a lot of running around.

Did somebody say Morrowind? Because I think I heard somebody say Morrowind.

No, I said Star Ocean 4.

Defenestrator2.0 · **Posted:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:09 pm

Airigh wrote:

Defenestrator2.0 wrote:

Airigh wrote:

Ignoring big TF2 discussion over there...

Games that require a lot of running around.

Did somebody say Morrowind? Because I think I heard somebody say Morrowind.

No, I said Star Ocean 4.

Really? I was certain that I heard Morrowind.

Airigh · **Posted:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:21 pm

Defenestrator2.0 wrote:

Airigh wrote:

Defenestrator2.0 wrote:

Airigh wrote:

Ignoring big TF2 discussion over there...

Games that require a lot of running around.

Did somebody say Morrowind? Because I think I heard somebody say Morrowind.

No, I said Star Ocean 4.

Really? I was certain that I heard Morrowind.

I haven't even played Morrowind.

It was SO4, I assure you.

Defenestrator2.0 · **Posted:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:36 pm

Well fine then.

Still, Morrowind has GODDAMNED BATS.

Badfish · **Joined:** Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:52 pm **Posts:** 3480

HAHA I have won an internet debate!My penis is now huuuuuuge.

Fluffdick · **Posted:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:09 am

No you didn't.

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