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 Post subject: Re: General Game Gabbin'
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:08 pm 
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What would you guys suggest for a decently priced PC game controller?

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 Post subject: Re: General Game Gabbin'
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 Post subject: Re: General Game Gabbin'
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 Post subject: Re: General Game Gabbin'
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:29 pm 
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Ah yeah, that's an important thing to add.

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 Post subject: Re: General Game Gabbin'
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:04 pm 
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I use a Logitech wired and it's pretty good.

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 Post subject: Re: General Game Gabbin'
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:11 pm 
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Diamond and Pearl were announced two years before they released in Japan.

Because the release was delayed


Can't delay a game when it has no release window, champ. GF announced DP when they didn't even have an engine figured out for it.

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Also what they said about the tech demo they showed for Pokken that's resulted in 3 years of work, handing over to Namco for fleshing out after concept, and resulted in mediocre sales in Japan.

Wrong

Which part? Because GF released their Pokken tech demo to tease fans and gauge reaction 2 years ago and had been working on an HD title around 2011-2012 after receiving dev kits from Nintendo. They were featured at E3's booth of a list of devs "currently developing for WiiU" which sparked the whole Pokemon Snap U craze. Unless they've been working on another project that got abandoned or is shooting for a 2018 launch, Pokken's tech demo that was handed to Namco for fleshing out was what game Freak was working on.

Also it is not doing good in Japan. Partly because a $1 play can easily get you about 45 minutes of gameplay, meaning lost sales on arcade, and Japanese gamers don't like it.

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Game Freak is never this quiet in the middle of a Generation. And they're a company based on habitual behavior.

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Looking through serebii's archive, the largest gap I can find between game release and game announcement/"exciting new Pokemon reveal" to hint at future game (Unobtainable formes with hints about how to obtain later) is 11 months for Platinum. If Zygarde's information counts towards Game Freak announcing a game in the future (when it exclusively discussed the anime) then GF hasn't deviated so long as they actually announce a game soon.

We'll see in December.

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 Post subject: Re: General Game Gabbin'
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 Post subject: Re: General Game Gabbin'
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Can't delay a game when it has no release window, champ. GF announced DP when they didn't even have an engine figured out for it.

Who gives a shit, they're going to use the same engine they used for the previous Gen 6 games for this game so obviously Gen 4 is a special case and should be ignored
They will announce a new game when they feel it is time to announce it

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That article bodaciously says it was only removed from one arcade out of who knows how many that still have it
It also lacks a proper source for its comments about not making a profit
Congrats, you fell for clickbait

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If Zygarde's information counts towards Game Freak announcing a game in the future (when it exclusively discussed the anime)

It does not count as a game announcement but go on
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then GF hasn't deviated so long as they actually announce a game soon.

The pattern doesn't matter, the point is that they aren't just sitting around and doing nothing, they're still working on the game and, again, will announce it when they fucking want to

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 Post subject: Re: General Game Gabbin'
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:26 pm 
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With Battlefront coming out today, I've noticed more than ever that there's a double standard now being applied to multiplayer-only retail games where "No single-player campaign" is viewed as a legitimate complaint. Judging a game for what it isn't (and was never intended to be) rather than what it is has always been one of my annoyances with the way people talk about games, but this is an especially heinous brand of that. A single-player title with no multiplayer component gets a free pass, but nobody wants to give multiplayer only games any slack. Reviewers fairly criticize them for things like being utter crap (Brink), not having enough content at launch (Titanfall), or having psychotically convoluted DLC schemes pushed by the publisher (Evolve), but they almost always come with an aside that the game would be so much better with a campaign. Hopefully Overwatch is the game that gets these people to stop this.

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 Post subject: Re: General Game Gabbin'
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:39 pm 
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AquaBat wrote:
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Can't delay a game when it has no release window, champ. GF announced DP when they didn't even have an engine figured out for it.

Who gives a shit


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Because the release was delayed


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That article bodaciously says it was only removed from one arcade out of who knows how many that still have it
It also lacks a proper source for its comments about not making a profit
Congrats, you fell for clickbait


Congrats, you brushed off an article as lazy research without doing any of your own. This one even links to a Japanese article with tweets from companies and fans talking about the situation in the comments. It's been news for weeks.

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they're going to use the same engine they used for the previous Gen 6 games for this game so obviously Gen 4 is a special case and should be ignored
They will announce a new game when they feel it is time to announce it


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The pattern doesn't matter, the point is that they aren't just sitting around and doing nothing, they're still working on the game and, again, will announce it when they fucking want to


Yes, which is why I said I was annoyed that it's taken them this long. They do not need to make an engine, they pushed out ORAS within a year of dev time when they confirmed that the X/Y team were on it, and we're already getting hooks in with the anime about future releases which usually happen after it is announced. Game Freak can do what they want and even announce a game a month before release if they want to (though marketing, leak prevention, etc. would not be worth doing so). The entire point of this argument is how it's frustrating as a fan to get nothing but "sit tight" for over a year with no payoff.

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Hopefully next month they at least announce a big name game because the only thing we have right now on the horizon are collab games with Go and Pokken.


You're bodaciously arguing with me over whether my opinion of them delaying a game announcement is good or not. And that's silly. I'd rather them announce early and spend a year hyping the game rather than playing coy about it. That's my gripe, not whether GF is allowed to do this with their IP.

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 Post subject: Re: General Game Gabbin'
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:50 pm 
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BurntToShreds wrote:
With Battlefront coming out today, I've noticed more than ever that there's a double standard now being applied to multiplayer-only retail games where "No single-player campaign" is viewed as a legitimate complaint. Judging a game for what it isn't (and was never intended to be) rather than what it is has always been one of my annoyances with the way people talk about games, but this is an especially heinous brand of that. A single-player title with no multiplayer component gets a free pass, but nobody wants to give multiplayer only games any slack. Reviewers fairly criticize them for things like being utter crap (Brink), not having enough content at launch (Titanfall), or having psychotically convoluted DLC schemes pushed by the publisher (Evolve), but they almost always come with an aside that the game would be so much better with a campaign. Hopefully Overwatch is the game that gets these people to stop this.


Well, the original Battlefront games had a pretty extensive and fun singleplayer campaign, so those complaints are pretty understandable imo.


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 Post subject: Re: General Game Gabbin'
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That's true, but EA killed Pandemic who was responsible for those amazing campaigns and frankly DICE isn't the best at single player experiences. That, and Disney probably had DICE's hands tied in regards to what they could do lore-wise.

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 Post subject: Re: General Game Gabbin'
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 Post subject: Re: General Game Gabbin'
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Pandemic might have made another good mercenaries game given the chance. Bleh. I was interested in battlefront, but then I've heard It's just dumbed down battlefield. It doesn't even have as much depth as battlefield.

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 Post subject: Re: General Game Gabbin'
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Still playing Disgaea 5. Best Disgaea yet IMO.

Anyway I just beat one of the toughest bosses in the game.
Giant Maxed Proto Darkdeath.
He's already strong as is, but not only had I encountered him in a level 300~ Trapezohedron. (Strongest stat booster in the game.)
I had the enemy difficulty turned up to 20 stars. (The maximum.)
And I still wiped the floor with him.
But I'm not done yet. I only have 51m intelligence on my sage. I want her to have 99m int. And for this I continue my ventures into Trapezohedrons.

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