Obnosim wrote:
Finally watched the Nintendo Direct.
"LoZ:TP HD is not just an HD rerelease!" [it's also another occasion for us to shove our plastic DLC down your throats]
Optional. Until they tell us the specifics, all we know about it is that you can save something from your TP game to do something in the Zelda U game. Right now they aren't telling us if they've added anything to the game besides updated resolution and textures or if the Amiibo has any of that content locked behind it, but at the very least the game will probably play the same as it did in the original version without you having the Amiibo. People who like Amiibo have a neat thing, people who don't have the game for $50 instead. People who don't want to buy the game because it's been only 9 years since it was launched have the option to not buy it. Everyone wins.
Obnosim wrote:
And then the 3DS menu editor with fucking microtransactions? And the games that aren't even out yet already have DLC? And every other 3DS game is basically a 3D iPhone freemium turdlet with terrible graphics that make the 1-man indie games look amazing by comparison?
These games are doing insanely well in Japan and Nintendo Badge Arcade is something western fans have been badgering NOA and NOE to launch since they heard about it coming out nearly 2 years ago in Japan. We've had plenty of bad looking games pass on coming out over here for the past decade (like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Wii which people STILL bitch about not releasing over here), but at this point Pokemon Shuffle is doing well, Pokemon Rumble World has done decent enough, and other games coming out are testing the waters and joining in because it's becoming a valid way to release games especially aimed at kids who have maybe $5 a week to blow on cheap video game thrills and don't want to save up for 8-12 weeks for a full AAA game
that in itself will nickle and dime you for microtransactions ala MGS5.
As for the DLC, since you clarified here:
Obnosim wrote:
Either the Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest one (or another eastern rpg), I'm not sure (I fast-forwarded through that part). What I recall is the announcer saying the US release will come with all the DLC that will have been released in Japan by that point. Maybe the game is already out in Japan, but otherwise it's just them deciding customers shouldn't get a complete game and should instead buy the missing parts they clearly had the time to develop as DLC. It's gross. And I know that's what every game company has been doing for years, that's part of it. I'm disappointed that Nintendo is doing it too. I have always liked how Nintendo games weren't just there to make cheddar and follow trends, that they cared about gameplay and quality. I can't blame them but I'm disgusted.
Aquabat already covered how the DLC is freely included in the game, but this has been a practice that Nintendo had been doing with localized titles for awhile to make the games more desirable to westerners who aren't as keen paying $5-10 to unlock a major part of the game that could be advertized as a key feature.
An example would be Fantasy Life for the 3DS. In Japan, the initial game came out a year before an updated re-release that included an expanded post-game, which fixed a lot of stuff in the game, gave more areas and loot to collect and basically substantiated the base game even before the post-game. If you had the original game, you could pay $20 to "update" to the newer version with all of the features rather than re-buy the game. When it was localized, Level 5 wanted the DLC to be separate still, but allowed Treehouse to put all of the adjustments to the base game into it to make it a "complete" game that also had a post-game DLC offering (which was $10). Basically, rather than sell you a 200% game for $50 9since the post game is A LOT OF GAME), or sell you a 66% game for $40 with $20 to unlock the extra 134%, they opted for 100% for $40 with $10 to double.
Other games have had all of their Japanese DLC released for free, sometimes as a way to bring players back to the game every week or so to check out the free DLC.
It's not necessarily a bad model and because it profits companies are going to do it. I haven't seen NOA make a really bad move on DLC like other companies yet, but that's just my personal opinion.
Obnosim wrote:
I give up. I'm officially a grumpy old fart. I don't want to play games that were designed from the ground up to be lazy cashgrabs you have to buy over and over and I don't want to buy content I can't access without some shitty plastic figurine.
Nintendo </3 me
It's a sign of the times. Nintendo held out as much as they could against freemium and DLC because they didn't like it and wanted to believe gamers felt the same way. Sakurai still speaks out against DLC in general as being fishy and made to milk cheddar out of people for content that should have been in the base game (and was developed for day 1 release). Gamers didn't buy what Nintendo was selling and their market was shrinking. At some point you have to set out for greener pastures, and at least in Japan it has worked out. Anyone who wants to return to things from a few years ago or even last year have to ask what they did to prevent this from happening.
AquaBat wrote:
The Badge Arcade is 100% a scam though, you're paying for chances, that's bodaciously gambling and is complete garbage
If it was gambling, PEGI wouldn't have even let it into Europe, seeing as even simulated gambling is illegal in PEGI regions. It either isn't considered gambling because it's an arcade and you aren't taking risk in making cheddar but rather risk in winning a prize, or because you get a badge no matter how bad at the game you are (if you miss every attempt to get a badge when you pay, you will get one at random as a consolation since you paid and were awful). Either way, according to one of the strictest governing bodies that regulates the release of video games, Nintendo Badge Arcade isn't considered gambling. Maybe very tempting and devious moneypit, but not gambling.
Good thing I have more patience than these games and some gamers do since I'm playing 3 ftp games that I've yet to pay anything into, and any game too bullshit I've just avoided completely.