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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:25 pm 
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Torizo wrote:
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Glorious Bidoof army

y/n


Even better:

Magikarp sweeps entire team of ubers.


why would he not have an anti rapid spinner

why would he not have a defensive or special defensive tank

why would he not predict a spore from smeargle

why would not have priority moves, especially on rayquaza, that is unforgivable

or at least a choice scarfer, god


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Pokemon, it's serious business.


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every single uber team must accommodate lugia or giratina


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The only Uber i use is Garchomp which shouldn't count.

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garchomp is the definition of a broken pokemon.


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KevTehNev wrote:
The only Uber i use is Garchomp which shouldn't count.

Yeah, it should.

At least it should, according to this guy:
some guy wrote:
"Garchomp has unprecedentedly high Defenses for a sweeper with a Speed just above the standard of "fast" in OU of base 100 which Salamence, Flygon, Zapdos, Celebi, Charizard, Raichu, Slaking, Tentacruel and Typhlosion flaunted before he came along. Even if he shared their Speed base, he would still come out a notch above them, due to his aforementioned Defenses, and moreover his obscenely high Attack stat with powerful Ground and Dragon STAB and a Fire attack to help obliterate everything in the metagame, given that he gets in a Swords Dance, which is perfect for him, as he clearly out-speeds the aforementioned 100 Base Speed Pokemon by a few points. Also, anything that does happen to be faster than him is still at risk of being trampled by a Choice Scarf variant, or never living to see an OHKO on him because the Yache Berry alleviates his one and only 4x weakness, making it nearly necessary to have a kamikaze attacker to knock it off him, because if he does have a Yache Berry, it's actually a very feasible thought to think that nothing OHKOs him without a considerable boost from a Choice Band/Specs or a stat-boosting move. Moreover, that move is going to have to be a Dragon move, and since Garchomp out-speeds all the game's most fearsome Dragons, he can decimate them before they are even in the wake of his ugly gaping jaw.

Besides, Garchomp still out-speeds several Pokemon in the Uber metagame, even its most powerful Dragon, Rayquaza, and all the other Dragons, for that matter. He fits in sort of well there, but at least he's not forcing an entire metagame to adapt to the constraints of his reins. As we all know, Salamence is easily downed by a well-predicted Stone Edge/Rock Slide, bypassing the Yache Berry, and Flygon's rather average Speed and Attack do not warrant the defensive measure of a Yache Berry to begin with; it needs a Choice Scarf to remain a good lead, and a Choice Band/Specs to become an above-meager attacker, making it easy for anything with a good Ice Beam to do him in. Garchomp never had any prominent weaknesses in OU as other Dragons did, and thus, he had to be moved up, or else every team would either have him or have at least two Pokemon somewhat dedicated to killing him. I think that alone was enough to move him up, even if he would have ended up sucking in Ubers (which he doesn't...), because he severely limited the unique capabilities of many Pokemon, new and old, and effectively forced the most powerful threats to dominate the online community, because Garchomp already did it all by himself."


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LOL BASE 100 SPEED?

HAHA BASE 102 LOL


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some guy wrote:
"Garchomp has unprecedentedly high Defenses for a sweeper with a Speed just above the standard of "fast" in OU of base 100 which Salamence, Flygon, Zapdos, Celebi, Charizard, Raichu, Slaking, Tentacruel and Typhlosion flaunted before he came along. Even if he shared their Speed base, he would still come out a notch above them, due to his aforementioned Defenses, and moreover his obscenely high Attack stat with powerful Ground and Dragon STAB and a Fire attack to help obliterate everything in the metagame, given that he gets in a Swords Dance, which is perfect for him, as he clearly out-speeds the aforementioned 100 Base Speed Pokemon by a few points. Also, anything that does happen to be faster than him is still at risk of being trampled by a Choice Scarf variant, or never living to see an OHKO on him because the Yache Berry alleviates his one and only 4x weakness, making it nearly necessary to have a kamikaze attacker to knock it off him, because if he does have a Yache Berry, it's actually a very feasible thought to think that nothing OHKOs him without a considerable boost from a Choice Band/Specs or a stat-boosting move. Moreover, that move is going to have to be a Dragon move, and since Garchomp out-speeds all the game's most fearsome Dragons, he can decimate them before they are even in the wake of his ugly gaping jaw.

Besides, Garchomp still out-speeds several Pokemon in the Uber metagame, even its most powerful Dragon, Rayquaza, and all the other Dragons, for that matter. He fits in sort of well there, but at least he's not forcing an entire metagame to adapt to the constraints of his reins. As we all know, Salamence is easily downed by a well-predicted Stone Edge/Rock Slide, bypassing the Yache Berry, and Flygon's rather average Speed and Attack do not warrant the defensive measure of a Yache Berry to begin with; it needs a Choice Scarf to remain a good lead, and a Choice Band/Specs to become an above-meager attacker, making it easy for anything with a good Ice Beam to do him in. Garchomp never had any prominent weaknesses in OU as other Dragons did, and thus, he had to be moved up, or else every team would either have him or have at least two Pokemon somewhat dedicated to killing him. I think that alone was enough to move him up, even if he would have ended up sucking in Ubers (which he doesn't...), because he severely limited the unique capabilities of many Pokemon, new and old, and effectively forced the most powerful threats to dominate the online community, because Garchomp already did it all by himself."

CRY SOME MORE.

I've heard it all before from people who take Super Smash Bros. Brawl too seriously.

They're all like: "You can't use Meta Knight. It's not fair because he makes it impossible for me to use Ike."

CRY SOME MORE.

And then they're all: "If we're gonna play for srs, you've gotta turn all the items off, because that's the real test of skill, and I don't want to lose a match because of a random-spawn bob-omb."

CRY SOME MORE.

Just ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugggggggggggh.


Stop crying, grow some balls, accept you're gonna lose some days, learn from your losses, build a better team and stop writing whiny essays about why you're so unfairly treated by a Pokemon.

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Your taking him too seriously really helps the situation.

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DoNotDelete wrote:
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Did you even read anything in that paragraph? Garchomp not only runs out major sweepers in OU, and is nearly untouchable, but outruns many Uber sweepers as well. Basically, Garchomp is too cheap for standard play. You still use it in Uber play though, where it is still a massive threat. It doesn't have anything to do with how well you can put together a team, you're making really shitty generalizations.


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I just took it off Google, I don't know about that. But this isn't Super Smash Bros. Brawl, it's a turn-based RPG. Stats matter (more).
I also read that Garchomp is too unpredictable because of how many ways you can use it, which means you'll most likely lose a Cockfighting Society just finding out what "type" of Garchomp it is, strategically.


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DoNotDelete wrote:
I've heard it all before from people who take Super Smash Bros. Brawl too seriously.

They're all like: "You can't use Meta Knight. It's not fair because he makes it impossible for me to use Ike."

I've gotten that for Super Smash Bros. Melee, from a few friends before I moved to KY.

"You can't use -----! They move too fast, and I like using Ganondorf!"

Just. Fucking. Deal with it.


And bring in a Weavile.

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It's not like you know that X is gonna use Garchomp, and it would be silly to be forced to use Weavile all the time just in case someone uses Garchomp.
I mean, in competitive battling, where you don't know your opponents' teams.


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I like using Weavile anyway, so it doesn't matter to me whether or not my opponent use a Garchomp.

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But we're talking about whether Garchomp should be considered Uber or not here. Or are we?
The whole quotation justified why it is. And if you're forced to use a certain strategy (or a certain Cockfighting Society) in order to win, it's most definitely overpowered.


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