Mass Effect general

Dr. Glocktor · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:11 pm

Galaxy Man wrote:

Dr. Glocktor wrote:

Galaxy is doomed because of the resources lost in fighting the and taken by the Reapers, as well as the destruction of the mass relays. Even damaged, they can't be repaired, since nobody knows how.

No matter what, you've fucked the galaxy.

Great way to end a game.

This is mostly false.
The lost resources aren't exactly lost forever, especially since there's several charted systems by Sol, and more than likely thousands uncharted. One could quite easily regain what was lost through mining and such.

The Mass Relays CAN be built and repaired and such. The Protheans figured it out while stranded and alone on Ilos. Now you have all the smartest and most capable races in the galaxy around each other it will not take a very long time.

Not to mention no matter what, the galaxy is already fucked. You're fighting for the chance to eventually become unfucked.

They built one. Which goes one way. After decades of research, that's all they could do. Besides, where would they get the fuel to get the resources that they don't know the locations of, as well as the labour to extract them?

The endings are littered with plotholes; the more you try to explain it, the worse it gets.

Lambeth · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:38 pm

I got what is considered the best ending and I still consider it to be a shit ending

Galaxy Man · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:40 pm

Dr. Glocktor wrote:

Galaxy Man wrote:

Dr. Glocktor wrote:

Galaxy is doomed because of the resources lost in fighting the and taken by the Reapers, as well as the destruction of the mass relays. Even damaged, they can't be repaired, since nobody knows how.

No matter what, you've fucked the galaxy.

Great way to end a game.

This is mostly false.
The lost resources aren't exactly lost forever, especially since there's several charted systems by Sol, and more than likely thousands uncharted. One could quite easily regain what was lost through mining and such.

The Mass Relays CAN be built and repaired and such. The Protheans figured it out while stranded and alone on Ilos. Now you have all the smartest and most capable races in the galaxy around each other it will not take a very long time.

Not to mention no matter what, the galaxy is already fucked. You're fighting for the chance to eventually become unfucked.

They built one. Which goes one way. After decades of research, that's all they could do. Besides, where would they get the fuel to get the resources that they don't know the locations of, as well as the labour to extract them?

The endings are littered with plotholes; the more you try to explain it, the worse it gets.

They built one that goes one way while stranded on Ilos and totally alone.
There was no real decades of research, and people know HOW the Mass Relays work, just not what causes it to work.
The Protheans were not a master race of mechanics either, like the Quarians or Geth, and they didn't have bits of Relay scattered everywhere that they could study.

The idea that it would be impossible to build a relay within a reasonable amount of time is sort of ludicrous. They have the resources, they have the knowlege, and they have the ability. They could make the network over again. Sure, it'd take a while for the full thing to be pieced back together but seriously it wouldn't be a HARD task.

Dr. Glocktor · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:11 pm

Again, what resources? Your assuming everything needed is within reach of the solar system that needs a relay. And that doesn't count the issue of fuel, nor the colonies that needed supplies carted via relay to survive.

Don't forget the lack of labour, either. With the sheer amount dead in each system and no way to cart a large group where they would be most needed, it simply can't be accomplished.

And so what if there are chunks lying around? Go and smash your computer to bits and see if you can pull together how it worked; except imagine it being as big as a planet and superheated then left in the frozen vacuum of space.

The more you try to explain it, the less sense it makes.

Galaxy Man · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:29 pm

Dr. Glocktor wrote:

Again, what resources? Your assuming everything needed is within reach of the solar system that needs a relay. And that doesn't count the issue of fuel, nor the colonies that needed supplies carted via relay to survive.

Don't forget the lack of labour, either. With the sheer amount dead in each system and no way to cart a large group where they would be most needed, it simply can't be accomplished.

And so what if there are chunks lying around? Go and smash your computer to bits and see if you can pull together how it worked; except imagine it being as big as a planet and superheated then left in the frozen vacuum of space.

The more you try to explain it, the less sense it makes.

I bodaciously explained what resources. Most star systems are unexplored. There are thousands just near Earth, that they could get to in under a day. It takes them about eight minutes to get from the sun to pluto so if something is out of reach it is REALLY FUCKING FAR AWAY.

The amount of dead is also more than likely negligible in the grand scheme of things. The battle lasts possibly an hour before Shepard wins everything. If you got a not-shit ending, then they were actually slowly WINNING against the Reapers. They would have heavy losses, yes, but when everyone is stuck and has nothing else to do? Labor seems fairly easy to come by. Especially when the whole of the Crucible team is there. The time it would take to get the whole relay system up again would also be quite a while, so numbers could easily be replenished.

And my computer is not something I really understand as it is. However, you get someone who would know about this kind of thing, and yeah I'll bet you they could figure out what does what it does. Which, oh hey, the Sol system is currently fucking full of people who bodaciously make a living doing things as such.

It does make sense when you explain it. It's already implied that they DO figure it out and set up some form of space travel again. Shit, they might not even NEED the relay, they might figure something else out.

I won't argue that it needs clarification, and really the writing could be a lot better, but it does make sense and it does work as an ending.

Vahnara · **Posted:** Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:41 am

...as far as I'm concerned, this video gives me all the closure I need.

bleedingraptorclaw · **Posted:** Thu May 03, 2012 9:22 pm

Getting Mass Effect 3 this weekend. I'm excited~ I've heard the ending is shit, but I'll probably enjoy it anyway. Because Garrus <3

Sloth · **Posted:** Thu May 03, 2012 11:48 pm

The game is great.
The multiplayer is pretty addicting too.

Fatehehhhh · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 8:53 am

Ame no Akai wrote:

The destruction of the Mass Relays is not even that much of an issue when you look at the ending's writing. It makes for a sort of pyrrhic victory, whatever. I don't like it, but hey. The real issue is most of the other shit, but I spent half the time in this thread discussing that, so I don't really want to get back into that.

They should have exploded the WHOLE FUCKING GALAXY! And if anyone tells me that "hurr there r 2 ways u can xplode", there will be no remorse.

Galaxy Man · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 3:50 pm

Fatehehhhh wrote:

They should have exploded the WHOLE FUCKING GALAXY! And if anyone tells me that "hurr there r 2 ways u can xplode", there will be no remorse.

And they do. IF the Crucible isn't finished. All life is wiped from every galaxy with an active relay.

Now, it's not the big giant total supernova, but seeing as the Crucible can destroy all life and cause significant damage to anything else, it's pretty clear that the Crucible IS controlling the energy sent out.

So yes, it's a different kind of explosion. The energy is completely different. Not only is it particularly clear that the energy in the relays has changed from the normal mass effect fields, which are what CAUSE the "supernova" reaction, but they all also send this energy across disturbingly large radius of space which means whatever is in there changed it enough to even create a bigger explosion.

To be honest this couldn't be any more spelled out.

bleedingraptorclaw · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2012 5:35 am

Sloth wrote:

The game is great.
The multiplayer is pretty addicting too.

I've not yet played the multiplayer... since my xbox can't connect to live unless I move it into my room. which I'm too lazy to do.

Alex · **Posted:** Wed May 23, 2012 8:38 pm

Mass Effect 3 price-cut, now only $30 new at Gamestop
good timing for me i suppose

Valbrandur · **Posted:** Mon May 28, 2012 4:32 pm

I need to stop playing Mass Effect 3.

After reaching the ending, I just feel awful and drained.

iamthelordhitman · **Posted:** Mon May 28, 2012 4:51 pm

so in the operation for multiplayer this weekend, banshees show up no matter what you are fighting because the goal wasnt reached last time

kinda interesting to be fighting a geth prime then all of a sudden hear the banshee scream

Dr. Glocktor · **Posted:** Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:52 pm

So I started a new game because I booted up my old one and my Galactic Readiness had fallen to 50% so fuck that.

This time around, I want to save both the Quarians and the Geth. How do I do so?

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