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 Post subject: Re: Mass Effect general
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:52 am 
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No.

No, Bioware, you can't do that.

You can't end a fucking space goddamn opera with a fucking trichotomous bullshit choice like that.

You can't end an intergalactic fucking JOURNEY with GILLIGAN'S FUCKING ISLAND.

You can't BLOW TWO GODDAMN PARTY MEMBERS TO BITS WITH NO FURTHER HOW DO YOU DO.

EVERY FINAL CHOICE WAS A LOSS IN MY EYES. I WANT TO DEBATE WITH THIS FUCKING ROBOT BITCH THE FUCKING BULLSHIT CHOICES HE GAVE ME.

WHY WOULD I WANT TO KILL THE GETH. I JUST BROUGHT THEM TO FUCKING COGNIZANT GODDAMN THOUGHT, but YOU decide HEY LET'S KILL SOME SHIT. It's not like any people INVESTED on the world, nay, GALAXY we created.

LET'S KILL THE GODDAMN MAIN CHARACTER. LET'S FUCKING DISSOLVE HIM INTO DUST SO PEOPLE CAN FEEL THEY ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING AS THAT CHARACTER, BUGGER THE RELATIONSHIPS THIS CHARACTER BUILT.

I WANTED TO BE MISTER VAS GODDAMN NORMANDY.

Let's also drop every character the player was benevolent enough to NOT bring with them to the final clusterfuck onto a NOWHERE JUNGLE IN THE MIDDLE OF FUCK ALL. Oh look, SEQUEL FODDER. The ONE THING we said we didn't want to create at the beginning of the goddamn franchise.

FUCK YOU BUZZ ALDRIN.

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 Post subject: Re: Mass Effect general
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:01 am 
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haha your EMR was low enough that your squad died?

you seriously have to do jack shit in order to get that. I mean christ I didn't even try and I got the full ending decisions.

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 Post subject: Re: Mass Effect general
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:04 am 
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I WAS AT FUCKING NINETY PERCENT OR SOME STUPID SHIT

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 Post subject: Re: Mass Effect general
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:07 am 
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oh wait that was my explosion time readiness anyway THE FUCK IS THAT SHIT

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 Post subject: Re: Mass Effect general
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:55 am 
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Shoolis wrote:
No.

No, Bioware, you can't do that.

You can't end a fucking space goddamn opera with a fucking trichotomous bullshit choice like that.

You can't end an intergalactic fucking JOURNEY with GILLIGAN'S FUCKING ISLAND.

You can't BLOW TWO GODDAMN PARTY MEMBERS TO BITS WITH NO FURTHER HOW DO YOU DO.

EVERY FINAL CHOICE WAS A LOSS IN MY EYES. I WANT TO DEBATE WITH THIS FUCKING ROBOT BITCH THE FUCKING BULLSHIT CHOICES HE GAVE ME.

WHY WOULD I WANT TO KILL THE GETH. I JUST BROUGHT THEM TO FUCKING COGNIZANT GODDAMN THOUGHT, but YOU decide HEY LET'S KILL SOME SHIT. It's not like any people INVESTED on the world, nay, GALAXY we created.

LET'S KILL THE GODDAMN MAIN CHARACTER. LET'S FUCKING DISSOLVE HIM INTO DUST SO PEOPLE CAN FEEL THEY ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING AS THAT CHARACTER, BUGGER THE RELATIONSHIPS THIS CHARACTER BUILT.

I WANTED TO BE MISTER VAS GODDAMN NORMANDY.

Let's also drop every character the player was benevolent enough to NOT bring with them to the final clusterfuck onto a NOWHERE JUNGLE IN THE MIDDLE OF FUCK ALL. Oh look, SEQUEL FODDER. The ONE THING we said we didn't want to create at the beginning of the goddamn franchise.

FUCK YOU BUZZ ALDRIN.

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 Post subject: Re: Mass Effect general
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:15 am 
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Shoolis wrote:
I WAS AT FUCKING NINETY PERCENT OR SOME STUPID SHIT


Having a full bar does not = best ending. It simply means you are at the minimum for not a complete failure.

For the very best ending, you need at LEAST 3000 if you want Control or Synthesis endings, and around 5000 if you want the Shepard Lives Destruction ending.

EDIT: This also alters the space fight cutscene at the start of the Earth mission, decides if your last squadmates live, and if anyone survives the Normandy crash.

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 Post subject: Re: Mass Effect general
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:35 am 
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the difference between the endings is negligible though, just look em up on youtube

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 Post subject: Re: Mass Effect general
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Lambeth wrote:
the difference between the endings is negligible though, just look em up on youtube


After about 3000 yeah.

I mean lets be honest here. The successful use of the Crucible is a pretty different conclusion than the complete annihilation of all or most living creatures in the universe, synthetic or otherwise.

Which I still find to be the worst possible ending to anything ever. Yeah, you kill the Reapers, but you die, you kill everyone forever, and devastate the planets so badly that they may no longer support life.

Nice going Shepard, you killed everything. Forever.

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 Post subject: Re: Mass Effect general
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The whole ending is still fucking retarded anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Mass Effect general
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I'm still mad after sleep.

I understand that Shepard was pretty exhausted at that point. So many people had blown up under his command, he got blown up himself at least twice that day, and he was forced to shoot his friend. However, I don't believe that Shepard would agree with such dichotomous choices. Considering Paragon Shepard generally wanted to save everyone ever, the paragon ending makes little sense since it involves killing the geth. in addition, after shepard loldissolves, the mass relays are kaput, stranding the largest army in the history of space in the Local Cluster, with about a million dead geth. One would think that after lengthy debate and the reconstruction of Earth, the combined forces would set about finding a way to reconstruct the mass relays, probably through extrasolor communication considering the comm relays and extranet weren't analogous to the relays. I still do not see, however, a logical reason as to why thought idea of sequestering the universe after bringing it together in such a way would work as an ending.

Also, considering having such a small margin of points from Shepard and his team living or dying is retarded. Give me a larger margin of error than that.

Also, Gilligan's Island.

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 Post subject: Re: Mass Effect general
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I quit this game not long after it came out and I have no motivation to pick it up again to do the final mission because nothing could come out of it but dissapointment. To me, the game ended already.

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 Post subject: Re: Mass Effect general
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:18 pm 
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Shoolis wrote:
However, I don't believe that Shepard would agree with such dichotomous choices. Considering Paragon Shepard generally wanted to save everyone ever, the paragon ending makes little sense since it involves killing the geth.


lolwut

Okay, lets take this from the top.

Firstly, there is no Paragon/Renegade choice here. It's mapped to blue, red, and green, but that's not what any of them actually mean.
The choices are Control, Synthesis, and Chaos. If you've talked to Javik often, he really references the Control aspect for synthetics and the Chaos aspect of organics quite often.

Control is "Blue", Shepard wants the best for Synthetics, and decides to control the Reapers. This means that the Citadel and Mass Relays are simply damaged and not destroyed. You're essentially allowing Reaper technology to continue to exist, along with synthetic life in general. This is problematic because if synthetics do attack organics, everyone is fucked because the Reapers are gone. However, Shepard could possibly come back in to fix the problem how he sees fit by controlling the Reapers. It's also entirely possible, due to Shepard's influence, for synthetics to create peace with organics, but it's possible they won't. (This is represented by The Illusive Man, because it's what he wanted. This does not make it the evil choice. No matter what, TIM would have wanted to control the Reapers, he just happened to be indoctrinated for their purposes. The Reapers present very real solutions to their own problem during indoctrination, the problem is they use this motivation to make the person go after their own instead of the Reapers. TIM's solution IS the best for humanity that he would have known. It's semi-implied that Shepard also takes control of ALL Synthetic life, but that's up to debate so.)

Synthesis is "Green", Shepard (a half synthetic life-form) merges himself with the Crucible, and the blast alters all DNA into a mix of synthetic and organic. This breaks the Reaper cycle, and destroys all Reaper tech. However, everyone (synthetic or otherwise) is now partially synthetic/organic. Synthetics will no longer be a large threat to organics because everyone is one and the same. The races of the galaxy now are able to create their own path without needing the Reapers. (This is represented by Shepard himself, because Shepard is the only one who can do this. He's one of the few truly organic/synthetic mixes in the galaxy. He is bodaciously the only one who can make that choice. It's the best option for all life, forever.)

Chaos is "Red", Shepard does his mission and kills The Reapers, at the cost of the all VI or AI technology. This also destroys all Reaper tech in the galaxy. This does NOT break the cycle, but also destroys all forms of synthetic life, which gives organics more time. Shepard has made a large impact on the galaxy as a whole, so his influence MIGHT mean that synthetics do not wipe out all organic life, but it's a big might. (This is represented by Anderson simply because it's what he would do. That's his option. He'd rather get rid of the Reapers as a whole than risk controlling them. No matter what the cost would be, he'd pick organic life over synthetic in a heart beat.)

These options do not always appear. If you EMR is too low, then you're super fucked. These options are directly linked with how finished The Crucible is. Low EMR? Crucible is hardly finished, and the energy kills fucking everyone due to not having the proper construction done for it NOT to. High EMR? You get the three choices, and all organics (and synthetics if you don't pick chaos) survive unscathed.

so from what i'm hearing (your squad died, you think chaos is the paragon option) you got like the lowest fucking possible score.

so your shit ending is really mostly your fault.

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 Post subject: Re: Mass Effect general
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Galaxy is doomed because of the resources lost in fighting the and taken by the Reapers, as well as the destruction of the mass relays. Even damaged, they can't be repaired, since nobody knows how.

No matter what, you've fucked the galaxy.


Great way to end a game.

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 Post subject: Re: Mass Effect general
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Dr. Glocktor wrote:
Galaxy is doomed because of the resources lost in fighting the and taken by the Reapers, as well as the destruction of the mass relays. Even damaged, they can't be repaired, since nobody knows how.

No matter what, you've fucked the galaxy.


Great way to end a game.


This is mostly false.
The lost resources aren't exactly lost forever, especially since there's several charted systems by Sol, and more than likely thousands uncharted. One could quite easily regain what was lost through mining and such.

The Mass Relays CAN be built and repaired and such. The Protheans figured it out while stranded and alone on Ilos. Now you have all the smartest and most capable races in the galaxy around each other it will not take a very long time.

Not to mention no matter what, the galaxy is already fucked. You're fighting for the chance to eventually become unfucked.

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 Post subject: Re: Mass Effect general
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:38 pm 
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Galaxy you don't have to explain a shitty ending

It's still fucking shitty.


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