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Is the end near?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:53 pm 
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Fakemons are full of win.

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Mr. Lostman wrote:
EDIT: Also, I'd like to know why you seem to think their imagination is limited to just making new pokemon. SCENARIOS AND MECHANICS, MAN.

Well...

Between the 8 different main game series they have made, they've come up with a grand total of two new mechanics, and a grand total of two scenarios.

New Mechanics: Snagging. Double Battles
List of Scenarios: Plot from the handheld games. Plot from the console games.

If they've gone through 8 games (not counting stadium and versions), and have only managed to come up with two plots, and two new mechanics... I don't have much hope for the series having much imagination in that regard.

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VGnerd_Vera wrote:
I'm not going to argue with you noobs anymore
I lost.

Yeah, this thread didn't need to be resurrected just so everyone could gang up on one person who can't argue very well. Don't get me wrong, I definitely think Vera kind of brought this upon himself. But since he's gone, I guess we'll go back to everyone agreeing that this thread is pointless.

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Water wrote:
VGnerd_Vera wrote:
I'm not going to argue with you noobs anymore
I lost.

Yeah, this thread didn't need to be resurrected just so everyone could gang up on one person who can't argue very well. Don't get me wrong, I definitely think Vera kind of brought this upon himself. But since he's gone, I guess we'll go back to everyone agreeing that this thread is pointless.

I'm sad he's gone.

I liked him, he was funny.

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I liked him up until the point where he started insulting people and RAGE QUITting the forum because someone disagreed with him and, as far as he thought, kept thinking that he hated the game for making a negative comment on it.

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New Mechanics: Snagging. Double Battles

And genders. Breeding. Happiness. Natures. Competition stats (DON'T say it!). WiFi. More than three ways to evolve a Pokemon. And that's only the base ones that I can think of on the top of my head.

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Things like Bidoof annoyed me, as well as Krickitune which is basically a violin with added appendeges.

Actually, Kricketune was based on a cross between a violin and a Violin Beetle. I thought it was rather clever myself.


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Okay we get it internet arguments are stupid but so are real arguments so stop mentioning it and then coupling that with a picture.

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Plasma wrote:
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New Mechanics: Snagging. Double Battles

And genders. Breeding. Happiness. Natures. Competition stats (DON'T say it!). WiFi. More than three ways to evolve a Pokemon. And that's only the base ones that I can think of on the top of my head.

Eh, I'll give you that.

Though to some extent, I'm like... WiFi is WiFi, does it really count as a new mechanic?

And the other stuff often felt poorly fleshed out to me. Meh. Not very significant. But yeah, I'll give you that. I was only counting things I considered non-trivial additions.

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Karilyn wrote:
Mr. Lostman wrote:
EDIT: Also, I'd like to know why you seem to think their imagination is limited to just making new pokemon. SCENARIOS AND MECHANICS, MAN.

Well...

Between the 8 different main game series they have made, they've come up with a grand total of two new mechanics, and a grand total of two scenarios.

New Mechanics: Snagging. Double Battles
List of Scenarios: Plot from the handheld games. Plot from the console games.

If they've gone through 8 games (not counting stadium and versions), and have only managed to come up with two plots, and two new mechanics... I don't have much hope for the series having much imagination in that regard.

1) If the series hasn't changed much, it doesn't mean it never will (precedent or no). Very important thing to remember.
2) New mechanic (aka, "tweaking"): Reassigning Physical/Special status to certain attacks in DP. There, a new one you overlooked. 2b) There can only be so much tweaking before you've pretty much perfected the art of POKEMAN BATTLE. 2C) Not every new mechanic has to be for battle. There are newer overworld mechanics as well. I hope I won't have to go into those..
EDIT: I guess otherpeople did for me...

I guess you mean two styles between handheld and console? Because otherwise that's a whole lot of overgeneralization. Scenarios are not the game in total. The game is the sum of the different events that make it up. Case in point: the gyms. The gyms in HG/SS are redesigned from the ones in GSC and will have different puzzles(from what I've seen). Different puzzles = different experiences. Also, the evil teams don't do the all of the same actions, much less in the same order (RSE & DPP teams are rather similar in their motivation, but my point stands.) Just because there is a team doesn't mean "OMG, AN EVIL ORGANIZATION! REHASH!!1!1!!1" And the game maps are totally fucking different. You're not just playing in Kanto over and over (besides the remakes), and even if you were (like Hyrule or Mushroom Kingdom), different events and different characters justify that.

Sequel: The Videogame. This is the more articular tl;dr version of my post.


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Merlin wrote:
Okay we get it internet arguments are stupid but so are real arguments so stop mentioning it and then coupling that with a picture.

That's the first time I've done it in like, months.

Plus it's usually a different image anyways.

Plus I usually only do it for really retarded arguments, like the past three pages, which were pretty exceptional.

So, long story short...

...I don't know.

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Plus I usually only do it for really retarded arguments, like the past three pages, which were pretty exceptional.

That's exceptional? what high-school did you go to?!


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Things like Bidoof annoyed me, as well as Krickitune which is basically a violin with added appendeges.

Actually, Kricketune was based on a cross between a violin and a Violin Beetle. I thought it was rather clever myself.


Cool. Plasma, you've completely changed my view on kricketune. I've got to admit, it's pretty cool now that I know the the facts.

Also did anyone mention abilities? Sorry, if they did but abilities massively changed the way I played the game.

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Fakemons are fake.


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Fakemons are fake.


Whoa.


Sorry. I mean't...Fakemons are full of win.

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