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Die.

WHY WITH NO ITEMS, REALLY?

Questioning page get.

ITS HARDCORE GaMiNg

Fail edits are fail.

Awww, how sweet! I'm already loved!

And actually playing without items is not my choice, I actually know a tourney player and it's "Tournament standard" and most people hate the fact that whoever is an item monger wins even though they can't do anything else.

But when the tourney-fags aren't around we play with them on.

You lose half the game when there are no items.

Tourney fags just can't dodge for shit.

I'd say otherwise... I didn't know how to properly dodge until I met said tourney fags... I was one of those nubs who wondered why that wing attack tabuu had that killed you every single time was completely unavoidable.

Yeah.......

That was more in relation to people whinging about hammers and the like. Man they piss me off.

Sounds like you just need practice.

Tourney fags are practicing the wrong type of dodging.

So these 'tourney players' created the game did they? THEY KNOW BETTER THAN THE GAME DESIGNERS HOW THE GAME WAS MEANT TO BE PLAYED.

I MEAN WHO THE F**K IS MASAHIRO SAKURAI ANYWAY? IT'S NOT LIKE HE DESIGNED THE GAME TO BE PLAYED WITH ITEMS OR ANYTHING.

SO YEAH TOURNEY FAGS KNOW BEST.


If you can't win games in Brawl with items on as well as off you can't claim to be a truly skilled player (as much as you may try to kid yourself).

That includes being able to deal with 'item mongers'. If you don't know how to shield-bounce bombs, counter-grab items or lure opponents into item-traps you're not worthy to declare yourself any kind of Brawl player.

So if I hadn't made myself clear 'tourney fags':

HOLY SHIT, SOMEONE PLAYS THE GAME ANOTHER WAY THEN YOU DO STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!!!!!

I TAKE OFFENCE AT SOMEONE SUGGESTING/INSINUATING THAT A TOURNEY FAGS' TOURNEY RULES ARE THE BEST WAY TO JUDGE SOMEONE'S SKILL IN A GAME EVEN THOUGH SAID TOURNEY RULES SUBVERT THE WAY THE GAME WAS DESIGNED TO BE PLAYED!

AND/OR SHUPYOFACE!

When you talk about playing anything professionally, you want individual skill to top all other factors, with as little "surprises" as possible.

Items add a random X factor that can be more fun (see "surprises"), and combat with items does take skill, however, the random nature of item spawns can tip the scales in any sides favor, all due to some lucky, (or unlucky) math.

EXAMPLE
It's down to one stock each, and a unlucky Falco user uses his Side-B move into a Bob-omb that spawned right into his path the INSTANT he started moving, and loses because of it.

Was that the due to great skill of winner? or the lack of skill of the loser?

Or simply being owned by an unpredictable, random variable?

What if the falco user had a minimal amount of health, say, 40%, and his opponent was on the ropes with 170%?

Who WOULD have won if the bomb didnt spawn there?



Thats why tourney's usually ban such X factors from games, they have a chance of making the winner questionable. Less clear cut.

You know if a situation like that Bob-omb scenario occired, it would cause such an uproar that it is likely both sides (unless the winner is a total prick) would demand a do-over.

Now not to saw that ALL items cause this. Bats, Beam Swords, Ray guns, motion bombs, and examples of items that would not greatly upset the balance of the playing field. They, as items, are very predictable, and can't bite you in the booty with an inconvienient spawn, like star power, Bob-ombs, explosive containers, and health.

Ok, I like Playing with items when I want to have a crazy fun time, but if someone wants a genuine challange of pure skill, I turn them off, (usually all BUT the smash ball, depending on characters). Sometimes, I leave on ONLY items that are predictable, as stated above.

I'd say you should play two series of games - one on each player's preferred terms.

All I hear about is 'playing with items off proves which player has the most skill!'. All that 'playing with items off' actually does is give certain characters an 'unfair' advantage - so how can that be a true test of skill?

Why isn't a match with only Hammers a test of skill? How about just Pokeballs? How about Soccer Balls and Bumpers? These kind of rules are just as much a legitimate test of skill as having items completely on or off.

If you can't adapt, you're only kidding yourself if you claim to be the champ.

I'll play anybody on any terms - and I'll be gracious in victory and defeat - random explosives included.

Nothing is as fun as a party balloon full of bob-ombs.