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 Post subject: Re: Against All Oodles
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:32 am 
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CocoaNut wrote:
I don't know if this is true with Shadow Dragon, but I know at least one of the GBA games actually gave better Oodles to hit chance >50% and worse Oodles to hit chance <50% than it should have.

But screw the Oodles. I have Sun Tzu-level strategic ability.


I want to say Fire Emblem 6, but Fire Emblem 6 never gave me anything no matter what.


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 Post subject: Re: Against All Oodles
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:40 am 
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Clyve wrote:
It's like Monster Rancher Advance all over again except the FE system seems to be less insane about how it calculates your hit rate.

In MRA you're lucky to get a hit percentage over 49% unless Accuracy is the stat you're maxing.

I minmaxed an Accuracy Mocchi that was supposed to average hits >85% of the time.

It did not hit >85% of the time.

Reminds me of Morrowind.


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 Post subject: Re: Against All Oodles
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:50 am 
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CocoaNut wrote:
I don't know if this is true with Shadow Dragon, but I know at least one of the GBA games actually gave better Oodles to hit chance >50% and worse Oodles to hit chance <50% than it should have.


Every Fire Emblem game released internationally (7 onwards) has this function, and it's actually pretty clever.

Fire Emblem uses a string of Random Numbers for all its events. To determine whether an attack hits or not, in the early game, it'd use a single number from that string. This meant bad luck was more prevalent, since it only took one bad number for a high accuracy attack to miss. But in later games, it would use two random numbers and get the middle point between 'em, meaning for a high accuracy attack to miss, you'd need two pretty high numbers in the string to be next to each other, which is much less common. It means that your displayed hit is not the same as your true hit, but with an inversed bell curve; the further away from 50% your hit was in either direction, the bigger the gap was between your displayed hit and your true hit.

There's a hole mess of things interesting with Fire Emblem's RNG, but they're not really as pertinent to this comic as the displayed hit is, so. Part of the reason I bring this up is that Marth was in several of the older, Japan only games, meaning games he (and Ogma) were in once upon a time actually had the less reliable one number hit calculator, causing far more instances of aggrivating misses/hits!

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 Post subject: Re: Against All Oodles
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:54 am 
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Yeah basically me when playing FE.
YOU HAD A 5% CHANCE OF A CRIT OGMA. THE ODDS WERE IN YOUR FAVOUR.

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 Post subject: Re: Against All Oodles
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:00 am 
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If I had a nickel for every time I was screwed by the RNG like this...

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 Post subject: Re: Against All Oodles
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Now if only Fi would come in and argue with Marth about it 8===D

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 Post subject: Re: Against All Oodles
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Syobon wrote:
Reminds me of Morrowind.
now, I'm only guessing here. but I'd figure it doesn't take much to make you think of Morrowind.


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 Post subject: Re: Against All Oodles
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myshoescramp wrote:
Syobon wrote:
Reminds me of Morrowind.
now, I'm only guessing here. but I'd figure it doesn't take much to make you think of Morrowind.

That is true.


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 Post subject: Re: Against All Oodles
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So, uh, I went and played Sacred Stones immediately after reading this.
Ewan missed a 87% chance and Cormag missed a bloody 90% chance.
Katie what have you done you're influencing my games.

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 Post subject: Re: Against All Oodles
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why do i get the feeling that this is gonna spread faster than entei?

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