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 Post subject: Re: Drawback
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:05 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Drawback
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:34 pm 
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Just remembered that I used to do similar things in Tactics Ogre and Final Fantasy Tactics kinda games. Lock in a poor lonely enemy unit with my own units, hitting them to near death, then healing them back up, just to grind some tasty EXP.
Other times I transformed the single last enemy unit into a frog and had my team hit each other.

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 Post subject: Re: Drawback
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*ahem* NOT THE BEES!

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 Post subject: Re: Drawback
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Rondo of Swords is great for this. Melee units attack by moving through squares occupied by enemies, so a unit with 6 movement can attack a max of 5 squares away, and only if it ends up in an empty square afterwards. Put your squishy spellcaster 5 squares away, then put a bunch of your other units in adjacent squares to block off all possible attacks, and the game will noticeably lag while the AI tries to solve the problem. Eventually, it gives up and moves right next to your caster, making it easy pickings.


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Unlurk for a bad nowi edit. I don't have the skills to go beyond these 2 panels.


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 Post subject: Re: Drawback
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*ahem* NOT THE BEES!


THERE'S EVEN MORE BEES IN THE PIZZA!

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 Post subject: Re: Drawback
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This wouldn't be funny if it weren't for Katie's drawing style, the entire "box-archers-in" strategy is one of the most widely accepted strategies in Fire Emblem.

Or the surround an axe user with unarmed dodge tanks on a rout map just so you can buy a couple swords.

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 Post subject: Re: Drawback
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:59 pm 
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I think an archer should be able to hit point-blank targets just fine without any other tools (or having to rely on punches) if they were properly trained by their military.
The games would need to be rebalanced, though.



I hate being that guy (well, I do now) but most of what was shown in that video is pure theatrics. Most actual wartime archers were not super athletes, they were all human beings who had to learn the complexities of firing a bow (which is tough to begin with , I would imagine). It's work enough to concentrate on hitting a stationary target, let alone a moving one, let alone a moving one about to skewer you up close. I'm not saying it wasn't done, but more often than not, it ended with the archers gutted.

Plus, he was spewing so much misinformation. I'm no historian, and I've never handled a bow in a non-comical fashion, but even I know that, during the hectic times of war, archers weren't expected to "split the arrow on the blade".

Here, have a look at this, here's an expert who sees better than me, some punk amateur.

http://geekdad.com/2015/01/danish-archer/

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 Post subject: Re: Drawback
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:43 pm 
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I myself am more of a sword enthusiast (really, who thinks a broadsword weighs twenty pounds?! That's ridiculous.), so I'm not entirely clear on everything there is to know about bows (barely ever even using them in games that give the option), but I do agree on some of those points. Doing random trick-shots in a life/death scenario generally lands on the latter half of the equation.

I was mostly only paying attention to the actual action of the video rather than that narration. Most of the words just ooze with a "My Method is Superior to Centuries of Technique Honed Around the World!" attitude.

That page was an interesting read, though it seemed rather harshly worded much of the way which made it difficult to take seriously on many points, but I'm of the mind that every false can contain some truth in it and I don't want to drop any amount of truth the video could contain. Though I can't find myself completely agreeing with the words of either the video or that article you posted because both have a "you are wrong and I am right" mentality. One will go to great lengths to try and disprove things they believe to be wrong.

It doesn't change the fact that shooting from point-blank with an amount of speed is very possible.

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 Post subject: Re: Drawback
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:04 pm 
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Here are some points we can all agree on: That guy is really good at using a bow and arrow. Like, ridiculously good. I mean can you do that? I can't fucking do that.

However, most soldiers in actual wars were not really good at using a bow and arrow. They were not career soldiers, they were farmers or potters or merchants who were conscripted to war. They were level 1 mooks who were given a couple days of training and brought onto the field with the expectation that they had a 50/50 chance of killing one enemy soldier before they died. They didn't even have names, you moved the cursor over them and it just said "Archer."

That guy in the video is not a mook. He is obviously a player character or a major boss. He has performed three class upgrades already and is currently at Arch Marksman rank. He can probably also heal himself with his ki, imbue his arrows with ice or lightning, pull an enemy toward him by firing an arrow with a chain attached to it and then yanking it like a grappling hook, and fire a hundred arrows in the sky at once to have them rain down on the enemy party 5 seconds later. If you disarm him, he can continue attacking at the cost of HP by firing his own bones at you, a forbidden practice known in the Imperium as Blood Archery. Do not fucking mess with this guy.


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 Post subject: Re: Drawback
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Y'know what? I'm going to completely agree with you, Lockey.

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 Post subject: Re: Drawback
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If I could thumbs up LockeZ's post I would be do that right now

EDIT: In the meantime, have this:

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 Post subject: Re: Drawback
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Airra wrote:
I myself am more of a sword enthusiast (really, who thinks a broadsword weighs twenty pounds?! That's ridiculous.), so I'm not entirely clear on everything there is to know about bows (barely ever even using them in games that give the option), but I do agree on some of those points. Doing random trick-shots in a life/death scenario generally lands on the latter half of the equation.

I was mostly only paying attention to the actual action of the video rather than that narration. Most of the words just ooze with a "My Method is Superior to Centuries of Technique Honed Around the World!" attitude.

That page was an interesting read, though it seemed rather harshly worded much of the way which made it difficult to take seriously on many points, but I'm of the mind that every false can contain some truth in it and I don't want to drop any amount of truth the video could contain. Though I can't find myself completely agreeing with the words of either the video or that article you posted because both have a "you are wrong and I am right" mentality. One will go to great lengths to try and disprove things they believe to be wrong.

It doesn't change the fact that shooting from point-blank with an amount of speed is very possible.


Oh, he's damned good, but almost all of the stuff the guy was saying? Nonsense. The article? The guy was a douche, but everything he pointed out was fact, countering LARPer Legolas there.

But the only reason I bought up the article was to point out what Lockez said. In an actual battle, I doubt that the common foot soldier archer seen in the comic has the skill, speed, and mental fortitude to do a close ranged rapid fire attack. It's possible, but I don't think they'll be the ones to do it.

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 Post subject: Re: Drawback
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 Post subject: Re: Drawback
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