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i started watching community because i loved Joel


also Joel is really really tall


and i think he only hires short people for The Soup's staff for that very reason.

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WHAT?! WHAT MADNESS DO YOU SPEAK?! I absolutely hate comics. With a passion.

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Xeraphem wrote:
Writing a story posing as another author, then giving the story to said author to publish under their name. The ghost usually gets the commission. If the book is crap, though, they get busted.

It's really common. You'd be surprised how many well known authors ghost write most of their books. If an author puts out more than a book every 2 years or so, odds are they are having books ghostwritten. It's just not really possible to put out a full length novel every year unless someone else is writing them for you.

I know a ton of Steven King and Tom Clancy books were ghostwritten, and I think two of the Harry Potter ones were. I remember the Animorphs Series I read as a kid was like, 90% ghostwritten.

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Karilyn wrote:
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Writing a story posing as another author, then giving the story to said author to publish under their name. The ghost usually gets the commission. If the book is crap, though, they get busted.

It's really common. You'd be surprised how many well known authors ghost write most of their books. If an author puts out more than a book every 2 years or so, Souji are they are having books ghostwritten. It's just not really possible to put out a full length novel every year unless someone else is writing them for you.

I know a ton of Steven King and Tom Clancy books were ghostwritten, and I think two of the Harry Potter ones were. I remember the Animorphs Series I read as a kid was like, 90% ghostwritten.


Wait, Terry Pratchett used to write books pretty daisies fast. Are any of his books ghost-written?


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Wait, Terry Pratchett used to write books pretty daisies fast. Are any of his books ghost-written?

Gawd I don't know. Most of the time the existence of a ghostwriter is heavily hidden. Often (albeit not always), part of getting paid for ghostwriting is signing a non-disclosure agreement where you don't tell anyone that the book wasn't written by the labeled author.

I wouldn't be surprised, but I am not explicitly aware of him having ghostwriters. Anne McCaffrey is another one I know off the top of my head who is ghostwritten for a lot.

Because Terry Pratchett is getting pretty old, but is still putting out books at an extraordinary pace, he probably does have ghostwriters. Possibly all his work is ghostwritten now; he wouldn't be the first author to do it. Write outlines and important parts of the book, send the rest to be filled in by a ghostwriter. Then review it and make sure it matches up with what he wanted.

Saves a lot of time. The actual process of making a single book takes roughly 2 years of writing, editing, rewriting, editing again, etc etc, publishing, promotion, etc etc. Even if you ARE a huge name author who doesn't have to wait and sits at the top of the list for your publishing company, it still doesn't make the process that much faster.

Thing about how much a pain in the booty it was to proofread your essays at college or whatever. Now imagine that nice little 12 point double spaced essay was 1000-1500 pages long (about 400-600 pages book font). It's easy to see why it's nearly impossible to put out a book in less than a year.

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So, how about them there edits?


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For what it's worth Norrin has been ghost-writing things for me for years; I am just really bad at crediting him for it I'M SORRY I REALLY AM. Also some of my favorite comc titles are ones he came up with.

Honestly, all I can think is how this explains every actual bad comic on the site.

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For what it's worth Norrin has been ghost-writing things for me for years; I am just really bad at crediting him for it I'M SORRY I REALLY AM. Also some of my favorite comc titles are ones he came up with.

Honestly, all I can think is how this explains every actual bad comic on the site.

That's not nice.

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Talking about the comic seemed better than branching off about ghost-writing. I was just blaming Norrin for whatever comics he was involved with for sucking, didn't think there was a chance of him being responsible for every below-average one. That seems like a slightly new point to me.

If only there was a way to see just what comics he helped write to see if my theory is correct. Oh well!

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Svelte wrote:
Hey Katie's comics are fine.

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Honestly, all I can think is how this explains every actual bad comic on the site.

Svelte wrote:
Hey Katie's comics are fine.

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every below-average one


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I didn't say they were all good. These ones, we can blame on Norrin for being a terrible writer.

I shouldn't have to clarify this.

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So... do you have a reason for being a douche to Norrin, or is it all irrational hatred?

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So... do you have a reason for being a douche to Norrin, or is it all irrational hatred?

He's uglying up the comic, mostly. I'm sure he's a SWELL FELLOW though.

He just can't write to save his life.

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