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 Post subject: Josh thinks you suck
PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:02 pm 
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Ok maybe it's more like "Josh Lesnick has some constructive criticism" but that wouldn't even be half as a provoking title. This was posted on Josh's (creator of girly) Horsejournal.

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Seems pretty right on to me.

Wow, I guess this make me that guy who joins forums just to tell everyone he hates everything they do. I don't wanna be that guy so, erm, I got this comic bookmarked? Does that make me cool again?


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No.

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...why doesn't he just come over and post here? I mean, it's not like anyone's going to bitch about someone being helpful. :\

EDIT: Okay, nevermind, I just saw the post. But still, no one is going to maim you for posting criticism. It's... kinda what this board is about.

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Yeah I saw that; I thought it was super helpful. He definitely knows what he's talking about.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh thinks you suck
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Loki Spawn wrote:
Josh Lesnick


thats like the twentieth time today ive seen his name.

uh... i dont think ive ever seen a guide on how to draw kicking a puppy. very intresting.


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I find his advice on the panel of grabbing the puppy adding to Katie's problems with 'prolonging the funny'. Maybe if she removed another panel, and put that one in, it would be more hilarious, but otherwise it seems like the joke is being delayed as long as possible just to draw prettier pictures.

I do agree, however, with stretching the limbs adding to the action, and it also makes it more hilarious.

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I think "Punt" is a very apropriate onomatopoeia


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Interesting Lectar. It was nice. :eng101:

But I agree with John Calles. Whop-o is much more appropiate for an action with a weapon. But no, she kicked the dog. PUNT.

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WHAT DO YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT COMICS.

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WHAT DO YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT COMICS.

I could tell you but the vast knowledge poured onto you and the deep metaphorical shit would less metaphorically blow your mind.


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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

THANKS JOSH THAT'S PRETTYMUCH THE BEST AND MOST RAD THING EVER

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Water wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

THANKS JOSH THAT'S PRETTYMUCH THE BEST AND MOST RAD THING EVER

Wait.

WHAT TH-

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I'd take his advice with a grain of salt.

For once I agree with him that Katie's panels would profit from more extreme, yet clearer composition with more space to breathe, the whole comic is a bit too rigid and constrained by fixed borders for my likings. And as much as I love swooshy lines, if you're going for an angular, slightly geometric style like Katie rounding out all your character's poses like he does in his suggestions just won't look right, you should try to find a good rhythm between angular, rigid lines and smooth ones (but still have them point in the same general direction of the action), your character design already reflect this, the composition does not. Look at the Tom & Jerry character sheets he posted, they're round, organic beings - his style is a lot closer to this than Katie's, but everyone's a bit biased when giving advice. On top of that his poses in that sktech aren't much cleaner/swooshy than Katies', the arms pull down his kicking pose and it's still pretty much just a straight, horizontal pose at the end of the day, to me he comes off as a wee bit arrogant, shunning you for using literal SFX which he pretty much does in one of his own comics on the same page of his blog and not following the swooshy lines when he doesn't either.

I agree that the transitions between the panels are a bit spotty, especially the last four panels bear little to no resemblance in terms of angle and image detail, which really hurts the continuity - again, be more adventurous with your panels, contrast them, have them overlap, go wild. Experiment. I wouldn't add the puppy grabbing panel either, IMO the sequence would work just fine with the mentioned changes.

I'll post a sketch of what I'd change in terms of layout [in a few] when I get home, stuff like that always is hard to put into words.


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The thrust in the two kicking poses is entirely different. I also read a bit of "Drawing bad is just my style" in that.

Landmark post where I oppose Ungeheuer.


Also, Katie's plan is working. I say she should go even further and start trolling art communities.

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Dr. Phileas Fragg wrote:
Landmark post where I oppose Ungeheuer.
Where? I don't see us disagreeing at all.

Also I'm too tired to sketch anything right now, I'll have my army physical at 7 am (urg), that'll have to wait like one more day or so. Sorry.


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