AWKWARD ZOMBIE

I only found out at this just now, but this is seriously making me sick. Like I want to throw up, or beat the shit out of the guy who did this. It's horrible.

Right now, the news all over BC is about my friend and her dog. Why? Because some bastard killed her dog for no reason! And now everyone's worried they might actually like him go free because 'he has mental problems and was not in control of his actions.'

Even if that's true, you don't let someone go after shit like this! The dog was tied up in her yard. It had a dog house. It was a friendly dog and I know for daisies sure everyone in her neighbourhood except him loved the dog, but he killed it for barking at him. When the dog was barking in defense because he was invading their property!

I just swear to God, he better get some from of punishment for this. This is not a time Canada can just give someone a pat on the wrist and let them go. This is fucked up.

Get him a roundhouse kick to the balls, and then lock him up.

Don't you have some sort of animal welfare organisation in Canadaland?

The legal system is too lenient these days. Fuck half the people who get off on insanity pleas aren't even crazy in the slightest. They're just cowards who got caught and don't want to go to jail.

The whole system could stand to take on a slightly more draconian attitude. We're too kind to prisoners these days.

Personally, I think that this guy should get at least a few months in jail. If it were up to me, I'd give him a severe beating, some lock-up time and forbid him from ever owning an animal again or even getting close to pets.

I think so, but I'm not sure. Even if we didn't, he still deserves to be locked up.

But personally, I don't think he should be in the neighbourhood period. If he has mental problems he should already be in an institution or something. The people in her neighbourhood are reporting how he will trespass by randomly walking up to their homes and just.. stand there and watch the house/them inside. Creepy as all hell.

that is fucked up, 'insanity plea' is just a way for cowards to slip away from their punishment, it's the same way in the US, too many people get off on that, I think that if you get out of jail on the insanity plea, you should be locked up in an institution for the mentally insane

That seems a little harsh. Okay, so people like this guy may be pulling one over, but what about people with a genuine mental illness? Just lock them up and leave them to rot? Rehabilitating people to function properly in society seems to make more sense, to me.

that's what an institution for the mentally insane would do, maybe the term locked up isn't exactly what I wanted to say

I thought you had dragons.

Yeah, but in some cases it's just not worth the effort and cheddar. Some of the mentally ill are too far gone for that sort of thing. And then you see all these criminals who keep getting sent back to jail within months of their release. For people like that, I think it'd be best to send them to a REAL prison, not one with DSL and cable TV and all that bullshit, and make them do work that'll benefit society for the duration of their sentence. Preferably without pay. Now that would be some incentive to not commit anymore crimes.

I agree there. I did a paper on 'Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity' plea back in school. You wouldn't believe some of the stuff people say/do, and even more disturbing is that some of them are actually telling the truth. But the prison system in this country (I don't know about any others) isn't working. Like Vaelor said, some people are too far gone for help, and some criminals just use jails like hotels. My dad works at a juvenile correctional facility. They've got about 20 kids there at the moment, and about twice as many staff. Now, figure the state has to pay an average of $35,000 (maybe more or less, I'm just guessing here) for each staff member. Times about 40, and you've got a ton of cheddar per year to keep roughly 20 kids locked up. They've got school and rehabilitation programs there, but still a lot of these kids just end up locked up again. It doesn't really make sense to me. But I've kinda veered off topic here.

And if the guy has mental problems and everyone else knows he trespasses, not to mention killing your friend's dog, he should definitely get some sort of help. I don't know if any kind of punishment is what's needed, but they can't just sit there and let him get away scot free.

If it was Australia, I think people would take the guilty sentence, people make fun of the ones in mental homes.

I'm actually not that educated in Canadian and American law (I know a bit of Japanese law, huzzah for Wikipedia!), so I don't think I can be very much a part of this conversation.

But I'll post anyway because I'm unwitty and annoying.

Well prior to this, people in the neighbourhood were a little uneasy about him just standing infront of their homes, but that was all he did. It wasn't enough to evict him from his home for it, or to send him to jail/an institution. I'm fairly certain he really is insane, but he's probably not able to be rehabilatated. I know for sure if they don't atleast get him out of the neighbourhood, he's probably going to be driven out because like I said, everyone loved the dog, and my friend, and her family. And a lot of the neighbours have dogs aswell, so they'll probably not let him near their homes ever again.

The case isn't sometime until January, but everyone is giving a lot of support, so I hope my friend is feeling a tiny bit better. One good thing is that my city has a history of severely punishing people for animal-related crimes. I think two years ago, a man spent years in jail for killing a little girl's 2 pet hamsters. Comparing pet hamsters to a dog, I hope the judge takes that into consideration of gives a just punishment.

what makes hamsters any better than a dog?

and if he is actually insane, then he can go about as he pleases. im sorry to sound heartless, but it was just a dog. he doesnt harm people as far as i know and if he was genuinely scared that the dog might hurt him, he might have killed it in "self defense". theres no way to prove this until you actually talk to the guy. we joke about retard strength, but the fact that this dude just might not understand is beyond you? im not a fan of mentally ill people, but i think that you are jumping to conclusions simply because you were affected by it. in america, we got this thing. i dont know what its called but its basically "all people are innocent until proven guilty" i dont know if you have something like that over there or what, but it makes sense, right?

personally, i dont think you can judge until you meet the guy.

You think someone who "doesn't understand" that killing something is typically a no-no shouldn't be put away somewhere for some sort of rehabilitation?

I don't think Nobhdy's trying to say that, more so trying to rationally justify why this guy would've killed this dog.