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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:07 pm 
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It's a good show. You should watch it :psyduck:


It has a whore, and detectives, and a crazy mathematician, and a scary homeless woman. :awesome:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:09 pm 
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L Lawliet wrote:
It has a whore, and detectives, and a crazy mathematician, and a scary homeless woman. :awesome:

Fun for the whole family! :eng101:

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It also has one of the greatest openings I've ever seen.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QElh_4u6Uhg

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It made bashing people's heads in with a baseball bat socially acceptable again.

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great, now i feel like a loser because i haven't gotten around to seeing it yet. i gotta watch that sometime....

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I hated Paranoia Agent with every fiber of my being. It's like it tries so hard to be interesting, but falls short of actually summoning up a worthwhile plot. I did like the episode where they interrogate the kid, though. Oh, and the one with the three ghosts. Probably the best episode in the series.


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I hated Paranoia Agent with every fiber of my being. It's like it tries so hard to be interesting, but falls short of actually summoning up a worthwhile plot. I did like the episode where they interrogate the kid, though. Oh, and the one with the three ghosts. Probably the best episode in the series.
As far as anime show plots go, Paranoia Agent goes above and beyond most anything else. The climax was astounding, [spoiler]when the cops found out that Sagi had created Maromi and L'il Slugger.[/spoiler] All of the characters feel real. I guess I may so jaded from crappy anime that I'll consider anything mildly enjoyable to be awesome, but not in this case. Satoshi Kon is a brilliant director.


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L Lawliet wrote:
Crane wrote:
I hated Paranoia Agent with every fiber of my being. It's like it tries so hard to be interesting, but falls short of actually summoning up a worthwhile plot. I did like the episode where they interrogate the kid, though. Oh, and the one with the three ghosts. Probably the best episode in the series.
As far as anime show plots go, Paranoia Agent goes above and beyond most anything else. The climax was astounding, [spoiler]when the cops found out that Sagi had created Maromi and L'il Slugger.[/spoiler] All of the characters feel real. I guess I may so jaded from crappy anime that I'll consider anything mildly enjoyable to be awesome, but not in this case. Satoshi Kon is a brilliant director.


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Which characters? The hard-bitten and disillusioned detective stuck in the past? Or the rookie cop determined to crack the case? Most of the characters seemed more like caricatures of people than anything else. There are exceptions, however, like the kid and the ghosts and the crazy hooker and maybe the detectives wife.
And dont get me started about the 'climax.'
[spoiler]ZOMG NONE OF IT IS REAL! ITS ALL IN HER HEAD[/spoiler]
Don't get me wrong, it's not a horrible show. Some episodes are entertaining and some of the characters are fun. I just hate it.

Crayon Shin-chan is much better.


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Crane wrote:
Which characters? The hard-bitten and disillusioned detective stuck in the past? Or the rookie cop determined to crack the case? Most of the characters seemed more like caricatures of people than anything else. There are exceptions, however, like the kid and the ghosts and the crazy hooker and maybe the detectives wife.
And dont get me started about the 'climax.'
[spoiler]ZOMG NONE OF IT IS REAL! ITS ALL IN HER HEAD[/spoiler]
Don't get me wrong, it's not a horrible show. Some episodes are entertaining and some of the characters are fun. I just hate it.

Crayon Shin-chan is much better.
The characters were based on some pretty lame stereotypes, but the writers manged to contort them into something utterly original. For example, the young detective turns into a neurotic mess by the end of the series. The elder detective becomes trapped in a fantasy world of his own design, and goes from hard-booty to being one of the mentally weakest characters, eventually having no control over his own thoughts.

The whole [spoiler]it was all in her head[/spoiler] thing is a pretty weak argument. I think the real explanation of the events caused by Maromi has more to do with[spoiler] Sagi being so morally weak that she was able to conjure up actual destruction. Sagi was like a doll, used and contorted by something more powerful, i.e. "Maromi." It wasn't her imagination, but more of a sci-fi twist.[/spoiler] Just because the series ended on a cliff-hanger doesn't mean you should choose the most obvious conclusion. Just look at the suicide party episode. That had one of the most unusual endings I've ever seen.

And you cannot even compare Paranoia Agent to Shin-chan. I mean, seriously. It's fucking Shin-chan.


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I've only got a couple of things to say.
1. [spoiler]the more you extend it past "it was all in her head" the more you deviate from the premise of the series. Besides, you can only suspend disbelief so long before youre just reaching for something to try to make it make sense.[/spoiler]

2. The suicide episode is one of the best episodes because, like I said, the three ghosts were probably the best characters in the series.


Also, yea, youre right. You cant really compare Paranoia with Crayon Shin. Crayon Shin-chan was much better. And actually (in my eyes) accomplishes what it sets out to do.

"facebattle my heiny. White and shiny."


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Crane wrote:
I've only got a couple of things to say.
1. [spoiler]the more you extend it past "it was all in her head" the more you deviate from the premise of the series. Besides, you can only suspend disbelief so long before youre just reaching for something to try to make it make sense.[/spoiler]

2. The suicide episode is one of the best episodes because, like I said, the three ghosts were probably the best characters in the series.


Also, yea, youre right. You cant really compare Paranoia with Crayon Shin. Crayon Shin-chan was much better. And actually (in my eyes) accomplishes what it sets out to do.

"facebattle my heiny. White and shiny."
How did it accomplish anything? Sure, Shin-chan is hilarious, but the original Japanese script was never used because the show wouldn't "appeal to American viewers." I'm pretty sure most of the dialog is improvised by the voice actors.

Also, I'm asking you to suspend your disbelief that much. [spoiler] For one thing, it's evident that Sagi is a pawn to some sort of more powerful being. That being creates the young detectives neurosis and the old detectives dream world in order to throw them off. When Maromi/Slugger flooded the city, this, I assume, was do to the young detective becoming closer to solving the mystery. They never defeat Maromi, which is shown by the young Detective becoming the old mathematician who predicted all the attacks, and the entire show restarting. The city is rebuilt, but, although Sagi is gone, Maromi lives on. So, it obviously wasn't all in her mind.[/spoiler]


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