AWKWARD ZOMBIE

I'm making this thread, this post, because this has to be said.

One of the moderators send me a private message concerning my signature.
Here is the part to which I responded.
"Censorship"? Are you serious? Just because we've told you in the past to not make creepy edits? Stop playing victim here, you look ridiculously immature.
This is a subject so important to me that I should explain my signature in public.

Yes. I'm indeed serious.
No good will come from censorship.
No good has ever come.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

There are better ways to moderate forums then censorship.
Best way being simply moving the problematic post to other board dedicated for such.

I wont change my signature because it tells one of my core belief.
That censorship will only lead to cultural and intellectual decline.

Yes I'm a victim. As is everyone else who was denied the choice of viewing the content because some person thought content was creepy. Because moderaters themselves decided to ignore forum rules.

But no I have not been censored by moderators. It was edit by LockeZ.
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A joke, that Nowi owns a dildo. That's it. Nothing darker nor twisted.

And just read what the moderator wrote:
"It was quite a few more than just one; my editing of your post was in response to all of the complaints I had received, since I don't really give a shit about the comic edits. In fact, I had actually held off on removing it because it TECHNICALLY wasn't breaking any rules. And the joke was suitable in the context of the original comic that you took it from, but really not all that great for this forum."
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-Post did not break any forum rules
-Joke was suitable in the context of the original comic
Moderator did not censor it because content were creepy, but because someone kept complaining long enough. Moderator ignored the forum rules because someone complained. Moderator censored a joke suitable in the context of the original comic, because someone complained.
Moderator censored because, by his own words,: "since I don't really give a shit about the comic edits"

Awkwardzombie comic, everyone who it inspires to make a joke, everyone who come here to read them, deserve moderators who Really Give A Shit.
We deserve moderator who care more about creativity and jokes then complainers and censors.

This is why I have this signature.

From what I have heard from the people I talk to, Nowi edits tend to get a little out of hand and in most cases tend to lean towards "creepy" more than they do "funny".

Like making a comic edit about a prepubescent child character owning a dildo. That is EXTREMELY inappropriate and is one of the reasons the moderators are here. Nobody wants to see someone MS Paint-ing together some creepy fantasy.


Also MY GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT AND DISREGARD ALL CONSEQUENCES TO WHAT I SAY just means the government won't prosecute you for saying whatever you want. AZ is not the government, nor are the moderators any form of government. MY GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT AND DISREGARD ALL CONSEQUENCES TO WHAT I SAY lets you say what you want, but nobody else has to put up with it. Like the creepy Nowi edits. Feel free to make them, but know that you won't get in legal trouble, you'll just be harshly judged by your peers and the moderators will step in to make this a bit of a nicer place for people who don't like to sexualize children. NOT SAYING YOU OR ANYONE ELSE SEXUALIZES CHILDREN, but that is definitely the way the Nowi edits seem to usually go (especially ones about SEX TOYS).


And please no bullshit about the "shes actually a dragon who is ten billion years old hurhruhruhruhr", that's a way to personally justify wanking to children.

edit: in other words, keep up the good work, proletariats. step in when arguments get a little out hand (almost like you moderate the discussion. ha. ha. ha.), and keep inappropriate content away from AZ.

Not in this case. Please note the words from the moderator.
"It TECHNICALLY wasn't breaking any rules. And the joke was suitable in the context of the original comic."

Edit was clearly not out of hand. Nor was it inappropriate.

And yes. Nowi is adult. That was the joke in the video game. It was a joke in original Awkwardzombie zombie comic. And in the end it was the joke on the edit.

Before you start burning books, realize that Bible will get thrown to the bonfire as well.

Yeah, agree or disagree, MY GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT AND DISREGARD ALL CONSEQUENCES TO WHAT I SAY does NOT grant protection on private message boards, the moderators can decide to break the rules if they feel like it. Come back when its the goverment on your booty and we'll talk.

?!?

I linked free speech to remind why it is important.
There may not be legal ground. But there is certainly a moral one.

And the one who breaks their own rules is certainly not on any moral ground.

MY GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT AND DISREGARD ALL CONSEQUENCES TO WHAT I SAY means you can't be persecuted for your thoughts, nothing less and nothing more. The moderators are free to remove inappropriate posts and from what I gather yours were very inappropriate for a PG board with lots of young users like this.

My post. You gather that my post was very inappropriate.
Please read the first post of the thread before responding.
You might notice the text:
"But no I have not been censored by moderators. It was edit by LockeZ."

So exactly where from did you gather that "yours were very inappropriate for a PG board"?
Where on earth did you get this information?

If there are people here who wish for more factual information gathering then send a PM (it's not like I can post it to forum) and ask a link for the comic edit in question.
Check if there really was a case very inappropriate content.
Or was it like the moderator himself stated:
"the joke was suitable in the context of the original comic"

Something something 10 year old looking girl and dildos. Sounds inappropriate. Your post, yes.

thank you for standing up for my rights I have been extremely victimized here

That's just sad.

"MY GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT AND DISREGARD ALL CONSEQUENCES TO WHAT I SAY" only means the government can't stop you from expressing yourself. It says nothing about other people in the world or on the Internet. This is from the very article you linked:Are people entitled to say or make what they want to? They certainly are. But just as they are, we are entirely entitled to tell them it's creepy or bad - to REACT to it.
As moderators we are also entitled to delete it if it goes against our policies. That's OUR "freedom", and you can't take that away from us. "MY GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT AND DISREGARD ALL CONSEQUENCES TO WHAT I SAY" doesn't absolve you from facing the consequences of what you say or show, in the event that it is problematic.

We decide what is and isn't adequate for the Awkward Zombie forums. That's our role.

We decided that edits about dildos aren't suitable for a forum visited by members as young as 13.

The freedom to post comics about a prepubescent girl owning a dildo on this forum isn't a fight worth fighting. Pick another hill to die on. Besides, you guys are free to post and discuss your creepy, fetishized, borderline pedophilia edits anywhere else, aren't you? So quit it with your victim complex, and go make a Skype group chat about Nowi's dildos.

"Censored"… Get over yourself. That's an insult to the people who actually suffer from censorship. For someone so eager to post links about MY GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT AND DISREGARD ALL CONSEQUENCES TO WHAT I SAY, you really understand nothing about censorship and the lives it ruins.
You weren't chased down, jailed, and tortured for these edits. Your public image wasn't systematically destroyed by us and our media. Your family and friends did not get hurt from us deleting these edits.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
You did not suffer from censorship.
Never call yourself a victim of censorship again.

The moderator stressed the word "technically" in their post because it was so close to being against the rules that it needed to be stated. The edit in question was found to be extremely inappropriate by numerous forum members, and we were asked to have it removed because it caused others discomfort. The rules clearly state that moderators will step in if multiple people have a complaint about the action of another member, or some content that is displayed or linked that is deemed inappropriate.

Really, what it boils down to is that, if you have an issue with how the moderators operate, you should tell us about it privately or seek to constructively resolve the issue rather than jumping on a soap box and talking about censorship. I won't tell you not to jump up on a soap box, because that would be a """""""violation of your free speech.""""""""

If you take such issue with how we moderate the forum or the content we do or do not deem appropriate, then you best bet may be to seek a different internet community. I'm not urging you to leave or attempting to invalidate your opinion, but simply offering a solution.

To come back on this.

Our rules aren't hard rules. They aren't 100% the things we will always follow no matter what. We have our own policies that aren't written down, but make sense to us. For instance, it's logical to not leave questionable content about children with sex toys on a website that has visitors as young as 13.

It's foolish to expect our rules to be an exhaustive list of everything we'll react to and the ways we'll react to them. This is where common sense and morals step in. We are not robots, and as such we will act humanly, even if it means it won't be as ideal as we'd like.

But I think, we think, that removing these edits was the best solution.