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The people that take every word The Government says as absolute law are incredibly annoying.


Isn't this true no matter what?

Substitute he for anything or anyone.
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Zero Punctuation and the people who praise Yahtzee like the video game Jesus.


I don't understand where you're coming from. What do you specifically dislike about him? To me, he seems honest about the games that he reviews. He always admits when he is nitpicking for the sake of entertainment, and always tells you when he is predisposed to disliking a game because of the genre. I find that most people who say that they don't like him only hold that opinion because they're butthurt over him disliking a game that they themselves like.

Since when did disliking someone for disagreeing with your opinions suddenly become so wrong?I guess you can say I'm butthurt but what really pisses me off is that he barely elaborates.SSBB sucks!What about it sucks?It's a fighting game and the camera is too far zoomed out and you have to unlock stuff that's why it's bad!!!Are those really that big of issues that it negates every positive about the game?.....HEY LOOK FUNNAH PICTURES!


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Cookieman wrote:
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Zero Punctuation and the people who praise Yahtzee like the video game Jesus.


I don't understand where you're coming from. What do you specifically dislike about him? To me, he seems honest about the games that he reviews. He always admits when he is nitpicking for the sake of entertainment, and always tells you when he is predisposed to disliking a game because of the genre. I find that most people who say that they don't like him only hold that opinion because they're butthurt over him disliking a game that they themselves like.

Since when did disliking someone for disagreeing with your opinions suddenly become so wrong?I guess you can say I'm butthurt but what really pisses me off is that he barely elaborates.SSBB sucks!What about it sucks?It's a fighting game and the camera is too far zoomed out and you have to unlock stuff that's why it's bad!!!Are those really that big of issues that it negates every positive about the game?.....HEY LOOK FUNNAH PICTURES!
That's being butthurt.


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Since when did disliking someone for disagreeing with your opinions suddenly become so wrong?I guess you can say I'm butthurt but what really pisses me off is that he barely elaborates.SSBB sucks!What about it sucks?It's a fighting game and the camera is too far zoomed out and you have to unlock stuff that's why it's bad!!!Are those really that big of issues that it negates every positive about the game?.....HEY LOOK FUNNAH PICTURES!


I'm not sure that elaboration means what you think it means.

You know, I had the feeling that this was about his SSBB review. I'm guessing by your fanboyish nature that you're twelve, perhaps thirteen years old? I used to be just like you, so, believe me, I've been down that road before. But don't worry, there is hope. I grew out it, and I'm sure that you'll grow out of your retardation, too.

Brawl really is sub par, especially when held in the same light as Melee. But his review really did get me thinking. Strip away the nostalgia of past Smash brothers titles and of Nintendo characters, and Brawl is your average, run-of-the-mill fighting game. A fighting game being, of course, a game where you are not outmatched, but outmashed. It is the only genre that I know of where the most hardened veteran can be bested by a five-year-old bashing the controller against his head. In an RTS, you carefully plan your actions, build your army, and prepare for your attack, meticulously plotting the details of your assault down to the smallest, most insignificant factor. In an FPS, you lie in wait, preparing for your opponent to enter your sights, striking him down at the most opportune moment. Or perhaps you prefer to play psychological warfare with your enemy, darting between the walls in close quarters, trying to get into his head, to think what he's thinking, in order to achieve the opposite of what he expects, gaining the upper hand in your deadly game of whack-a-mole. Thinking, whether it be it be impromptu or compiled over time, is very much involved in these genres. You enter your opponent's mind, you try to see things through his own eyes in order to outsmart him. You adapt, you thrive. But not in a fighting game. The reason why anybody even enjoys a fighting game is because plays on our instincts, satiating our more savage sides through the thrill and adrenaline of blood lust, utilizing brute force, much like the gladiatorial matches of yore. It is the bastard child of cock fighting rings and Michael Vick. No thought, no planning, just reaction. It is a level playing field, but not in the sense that we like. Humans want, at some level, want to blame themselves for their failures. When playing an RTS or an FPS, maybe you failed because you didn't conserve enough resources, or maybe it was because you underestimated your opponent's abilities. The bottom line is that you have yourself to blame. Meanwhile, with fighting games, the game is all that you have to blame. What's the alternative? "daisies you thumbs, you didn't press that button hard enough"? Nobody likes the feeling of haplessness, of seeing no way to improve your tactics, to refine your techniques. Playing a fighting game and losing is like being the only player on the 1918 White Sox that tried: You lost, but there was nothing that you could have done better to change the outcome.

tl;dr: fighting games suck.

Also, fighting games = SERIOUS BUSINESS

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Cookieman wrote:
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Zero Punctuation and the people who praise Yahtzee like the video game Jesus.


I don't understand where you're coming from. What do you specifically dislike about him? To me, he seems honest about the games that he reviews. He always admits when he is nitpicking for the sake of entertainment, and always tells you when he is predisposed to disliking a game because of the genre. I find that most people who say that they don't like him only hold that opinion because they're butthurt over him disliking a game that they themselves like.

Since when did disliking someone for disagreeing with your opinions suddenly become so wrong?I guess you can say I'm butthurt but what really pisses me off is that he barely elaborates.SSBB sucks!What about it sucks?It's a fighting game and the camera is too far zoomed out and you have to unlock stuff that's why it's bad!!!Are those really that big of issues that it negates every positive about the game?.....HEY LOOK FUNNAH PICTURES!


dude seriously we know you're butthurt he bashed your comic specifically in one of his ZP episodes

get over it

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Falling asleep on accident.
What a waste of my time.

Also reminder to people. This is the Things that piss you off thread, not the you cant have an opinion because its contradictory to mine thread.


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Miss use of the word Irony and Overuse of the term Emo


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Misuse of the word Irony and Overuse of the term Emo.

Lolmisspelling.


On all the Yahtzee stuff; tl;dr. Here's my two cents regardless:

I don't think Yahtzee actually can like a game anymore, the expectations of him are to hate on everything for the lawls. If he said "F**K YEAH! THIS GAME IS AWESOME! EVERYBODY SHOULD BUY IT!", people would be all "WTF!? Who are you and what have you done with my Yahtzee!?". So he's built a cage for himself really - he's not a serious/level-headed reviewer, more an extreme critic trying to be funny.


I did skim Def's rant about how he's unbiased because he likes RTS and FPS games more than fighting games.


Defenestrator2.0 wrote:
A fighting game being, of course, a game where you are not outmatched, but outmashed. It is the only genre that I know of where the most hardened veteran can be bested by a five-year-old bashing the controller against his head.

Actually Brawl is put together in a way where that doesn't really happen (especially if you play with items on). You're just not very good at it.


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The reason why anybody even enjoys a fighting game is because plays on our instincts, satiating our more savage sides through the thrill and adrenaline of blood lust, utilizing brute force, much like the gladiatorial matches of yore.

Meh, I do it for the characters - mostly the FALCON PUNCH! Brawl really does make me laugh though - it is funneh.


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It is the bastard child of cock fighting rings and Michael Vick

Lolcock.

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Bullshit, brawl IS a spam fest in items on, especially since all you have to do is press A to pick up and throw an item.


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DnD is right though. I once fought maybe five or six online matches against some guy from another forum I go to, and he completely destroyed me every single time.
And I really wasn't all that bad at the game.
So, a button masher may be able to beat casual players, but not the most hardened veterans, as Defenestrator put it.

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A veteran has advantage over a button masher in Brawl because a vet. has understandings of:

1. Stage hazards - how to avoid them and take advantage of them.

2. Most of the character's movesets and is able to pre-empt move spamming (i.e. Pit might spam his Side-B so they would be careful when getting in close).

3. How to use the dodge/shield button.

4. When to use the dodge/shield button.

5. USE THE DODGE/SHIELD BUTTON.


I have a lot of decent Brawl buddies who play with items on and on stages other than Final Destination - so my experiences of Brawl may differ to a lot of your own.

I can still destroy Pit/Ike/whatever spammers on FD though (providing I'm not Luigi - ugh, traction fail).

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Falling asleep on accident.

This happened to me a few times during math class.

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Also reminder to people. This is the Things that piss you off thread, not the you cant have an opinion because its contradictory to mine thread.

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