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 Post subject: Re: Dangan Crossing: Let's Escape Hope Town! Trial 1 Start!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:20 pm 
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"Our fight didn't take place on the concrete, the evidence of that being the Signs of a Struggle. That piece of evidence couldn't have been forged, for not only would the culprit needed to have moved Bud's corpse around to get footprints, they would have also needed my willing participation."

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 Post subject: Re: Dangan Crossing: Let's Escape Hope Town! Trial 1 Start!
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Image "Right, I can do that, but what series of events do you want me to use? The ones that Diana proposes of Joe chasing Bud, or the ones where Joe returned home and the body disappeared?"


Image "I think the former would provide more insight."

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 Post subject: Re: Dangan Crossing: Let's Escape Hope Town! Trial 1 Start!
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"By the way, I know of a method the culprit could have used to drop Bud."

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 Post subject: Re: Dangan Crossing: Let's Escape Hope Town! Trial 1 Start!
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Cranston turned nervously around. "Do you want to tell us, sweatband?"

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 Post subject: Re: Dangan Crossing: Let's Escape Hope Town! Trial 1 Start!
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Cranston turned nervously around. "Do you want to tell us, sweatband?"

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 Post subject: Re: Dangan Crossing: Let's Escape Hope Town! Trial 1 Start!
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 Post subject: Re: Dangan Crossing: Let's Escape Hope Town! Trial 1 Start!
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"Either they somehow managed to climb the (Walmart-knockoff) with Bud's corpse in tow, or they flew."

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 Post subject: Re: Dangan Crossing: Let's Escape Hope Town! Trial 1 Start!
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"After Joe stabbed Bud in the eye with the knife, Bud ran panickedly away, possibly looking for help. Joe gave chase in order to finish the job.

Unknown to both of them, Diana was watching from a distance.

Around the area of Re-Tail, Joe overtook Bud, blocking his escape. And with a shove, he knocked Bud backwards, making him his his head on the concrete. This must have been enough of a jolt to kill him.

Joe then wandered off to find Bud's shovel in the river, hoping to use it to hide the body. When he couldn't find it, he went to his house to get his own.

Meanwhile, with Joe gone, Diana grabbed Bud's body and dragged it back to where it was by the river, in order to keep Joe from hiding the evidence of his killing.

The ground by this point was soft enough for the dragging to be noticable in the mud, but not enough for Diana to leave visible prints.

Joe went back to dispose of the body, only to find it missing. Thus, he returned home, satisfied that the body no longer was a problem for him."


Image "Though, I do have one question, Diana. Why would you move the body and possibly incriminate yourself if someone saw you, or if we had the capability to take fingerprints? Wouldn't being a witness to the crime and telling us all the details have been enough?"

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 Post subject: Re: Dangan Crossing: Let's Escape Hope Town! Trial 1 Start!
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ImageThus, he returned home, satisfied that the body no longer was a problem for him."


Evidence Bullet: Town Map

You've got that wrong!

Image "Look at the town map. The most direct route from Re-Tail to Joe's house passes right by the river. I find it hard to believe that Joe could have missed seeing Bud's body lying there if he had walked home after killing him at Re-Tail!"

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 Post subject: Re: Dangan Crossing: Let's Escape Hope Town! Trial 1 Start!
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Crap, I misread that, hang on.

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 Post subject: Re: Dangan Crossing: Let's Escape Hope Town! Trial 1 Start!
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NOPE NEVER MIND I'M STICKING TO MY FIRST REBUTTAL.

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 Post subject: Re: Dangan Crossing: Let's Escape Hope Town! Trial 1 Start!
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Image "I think your facts are a little jumbled, but yes, if Joe went back to Re-Tail to get the body, he'd likely have to pass right by where the body was laying, or he'd have caught Diana moving it in the process... though who knows, Joe does seem a bit, flightly (I'm sorry, I don't mean that as an insult).

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 Post subject: Re: Dangan Crossing: Let's Escape Hope Town! Trial 1 Start!
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Around the area of Re-Tail, Joe overtook Bud, blocking his escape. And with a shove, he knocked Bud backwards, making him his his head on the concrete. This must have been enough of a jolt to kill him.

Evidence Bullet : Shovel in the River

You've also got that wrong!I've been waiting to do that

"Joe wouldn't have gone back to retrieve the shovel from the river if he already had one to knock Bud back. I mean, I guess with enough force he could have just done it by hand, so it's not as glaring as what Pierce pointed out, but it's still something to consider. Do we know Joe had a shovel with him when he attacked Bud?"

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 Post subject: Re: Dangan Crossing: Let's Escape Hope Town! Trial 1 Start!
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WOW nevermind I totally misread that as shovel

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 Post subject: Re: Dangan Crossing: Let's Escape Hope Town! Trial 1 Start!
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Image "Joe could have had a shovel with him, or if we believe what Joe and Diana both seem to have said, Joe needed to go back and get a shovel to dispose of the body. This is what gave Diana her opening to move the body."

Image "If Joe had a shovel to push Bud, why would he need to go back and get one to bury the body?"

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