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Curious about what you find odd; I think we're saying the same things? That we shouldn't take Terra's word as set-in-stone fact and that if he were Mafia then there could be a ruse behind Dahlia's visiting (or not visiting) him?

It's more the tone that made me a bit wary, I agreed that we shouldn't just assume Terra was telling the truth, but the post seemed a bit weird.

Also, what exactly would Phoenix, the doctor, find out about Terra on the first night? About the only thing the doctor would find out is if Terra was attacked and he would save them, and I'd think that Phoenix visiting him (if he indeed did) would be a random choice, given no real evidence of his role.

Though, I'm assuming the reason you thought this was because you thought that Phoenix was the cop role and could dig up dirt? I'm just kinda confused on your logic.

Also, I was visited by one Miss Dahlia Hawthorne during the last investigative period. Take that for what it's worth.

Well shit, we've lost the main character. This doesn't bode well.

Oh. Yeah. That would be my problem.

I mean be fair, it's a reasonable mistake for me to have expected Phoenix to have some sort of investigative role, right?

Well, now power roles have to play a bit more of a dangerous game. They can't out themselves and get at least one free night to live by sacrificing Phoenix. Now it's a game of the longer you wait to reveal the more helpful you'll be, but the higher chance of getting declared guilty.

I'm not sure we can afford another no lynch today.


This obviously means that he was the false main character and that the real story is being told by/about someone else. But who

I have the same response to both those points: We have Apollo, who 1) had his own game, so he's probably the main character now and 2) can still protect town like Phoenix could.

I'm also going to add that you laid out that post very dramatically, Turbo. You lean more towards role reveals in your first paragraph and say-without-saying that we need to lynch, but in a fashion that seems less like discussion and more like a call to action. It also irks me that you've planned out a scenario where we'd sacrifice Phoenix if role reveals started happening. I can't say any of it is truly suspicion-worthy, but I can't help but find it odd. Any comments on this, from you or from others?

The sacrificing Phoenix thing is just generally what ends up happening. Someone like the cop or the gunsmith reveals who they are and the mafia would naturally go after them, but if the doctor is still in the game, they have to get them first.
I forgot we had a bulletproof vest dude as well, so yeah I was a bit too overdramatic there.

Maybe it's your choice of words then: sacrificing Phoenix is entirely different from the mafia going after him. You make it sound as though if someone were to come around with their role that Phoenix (or Apollo now, I suppose) would be obligated to reveal themselves and take the bullet. Which is way more helpful for mafia than for town, since the one line of defense we have left would be painting a target on themselves.

What I'm trying to say is that it sounds like a mafia strategy, whether you intended it to be or not. It may be a bit of a stretch though; I want to see what other people think before casting a vote about it.

I'm not quite clear on the rules, does Phoenix die in someone's place or something? Why is he necessarily a sacrifice in these cases?

I always thought doctors just negated kills, not that they took them on themselves.

The Doctor only negates night kills, he isn't killed in the victim's place.

Sacrifice was the wrong word to use, I guess. I was mistakenly assuming that whatever role revealed that day would also mean the doctor was revealed, meaning he would protect the other revealed role, and the mafia would get him. I didn't think my post all the way through, is all.

How much time is left in the day? We really shouldn't be so willing to go without lynching.

So far, it seems like Turbo, Terra, and I are the only ones who have been called suspicious, so I'd call us the immediate suspects if we have any at all. Are there any folk who haven't posted? Count them in too.

If absolutely nothing else at all, we should pick someone from the suspects at random. Personally I'd suggest we lean away from Terra because we don't really have any specific reason to think he'd have lied. Turbo might be a bit more suspicious, but I of all people can't fault him for some confusion about roles. As for myself, I'll come out and say that as far as town members go, I'm probably one of, if not the, least important. It doesn't matter much in the long run if I get lynched, but you won't get any leads from me in that case.

I'd suggest going after inactives this round, but it should be discussed by everyone.

The Trial ends on February 6th! And just as a reminder, you need five votes to reach a verdict!

I'd like to do this to. Granted, there's no way of knowing who's being inactive because they don't care, or because they're a power role trying to fly low so the mafia doesn't get them, but it's better than lynching someone based off of the flimsiest possible evidence we can gather.