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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:30 pm 
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SaintCrazy wrote:
What? Tammerath was the Godfather.

Agh, fuck, I always do this once a game. I fuck up a role/name. Still, he didn't provide any reasons, much like the other lynches he voted for.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:34 pm 
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I'd like to say that I didn't get a gun refill yesterday which makes me sad.
Saint, did you get a gun yesterday? Cause I can't think of anyone else the smith might have given one to.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:55 pm 
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If you didn't get a refill its because you weren't revealed as the shooter.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:58 pm 
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But... but I said I would shoot and did it. How can Gunsmith not notice that?

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:59 pm 
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I think he was trying to psych everyone out by claiming villager a lot, so we shouldn't really consider that.

Me claiming villager every other post is only partially psych based, to keep the mafia guessing if I'm more than just a villager, maybe save the gunsmith from a daybullet if a mafia got a gun. It was primarily done because I have nothing better to do.
Anyway, since the last person on Kam's suspicion list (barring me) is Angel, and I sure as hell am not voting for who I personally know to be town, I say Lynch Angel.
The person I know to be villager, by the way, is me.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:13 pm 
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I wonder if the gunsmith is who I think he is. I doubt outing himself would pose any threat at this point (assuming you have a gun), since the hooker is out. The worst thing that could happen would be someone counterclaims it and we get a big drawn-out debate over it. Gunsmith, you don't have to out yourself unless you think it'd be beneficial to the town somehow.

Also, on the topic of guns, I do not have a gun either. Perhaps the gunsmith gave it to someone else? Maybe it got to Kamak too late? I'm also surprised Kamak didn't have one in the first place.

Anyway I'm also going to vote to lynch Angelic.

What worries me though.. if Guy is not the other mafia, who is? Turbo? D-Vid?

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:18 pm 
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There's not many left. I didn't get one, you didn't get one, Turbo should have gotten another one long ago, Angelic is out of question and Guy under suspicion.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:37 pm 
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With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Turbo: Guyperson
Guyperson: Angelic
SaintCrazy: Angelic

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:39 pm 
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I don't think the GS should reveal themselves yet, though. The only proof they'd have would be the list of guns, and that would give the mafia a list of people not to go for.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:45 pm 
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You're right, but the interesting thing about the gunsmith outing himself is this: if he has a gun, if anyone counterclaims to be gunsmith they can shoot the liar.

If someone else claims to be gunsmith, and the real gunsmith sees them, they can also just shoot the liar.

So the person who claims to be gunsmith wouldn't need the proof, because nobody can safely counterclaim without being shot.

"But Saint," you might say, "What if the gunsmith uses his gun to prove himself, and is then left open for a mafia kill at night?"
There are only two mafia left at this point. If a mafia member is killed during the day because they lied, there will only be one left to kill. The only problem with this plan that I can see (let me know if you see more) is that we might not know who the last mafia member is.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 6
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:35 am 
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I don't think anybody would counterclaim me at this point. Pretty much everyone who's left is certain of my innocence (and they're right)
(and yes this is my claim)

If you want the gun list, I'll post it, but I'd rather not give a list of people with guns to the mafia. Juuuuust in case.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 6
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:16 am 
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Haha I knew it.

I'm not 100% sure of your identity unless everyone else posts but at least I have your word.

I know you're sort of confirmed innocent already but I'm just trying to scrounge up what data I can to find that last mafia. It just bugs me that Guy is voting to lynch folks who we're pretty sure are mafia.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 6
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I thought so to from at least day 4.
You should have given me a gun. The only reason I didn't die last night was probably because Kamak said you should give me another.
Have you given anyone a gun last night?

Maybe guy is voting for folks we're pretty sure is mafia because he knows he can't save her. No reason in making yourself even more suspicious in trying to save her.

BTW. I'm still holding off on voting for angelic so we can keep discussing.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 6
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:19 pm 
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D-vid wrote:
You should have given me a gun. The only reason I didn't die last night was probably because Kamak said you should give me another.

Like I said, i sorta zoned out and forgot that you said you were going to fire.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 6
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:50 pm 
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Wait...
Kamak didn't get the gun so he got night killed...
D-Vid said he didn't get a gun...
Angel is top suspicion so no gun...
Turbo for sure has a gun already...
I am NOT suspicious I swear but didn't get one anyway...
Saint has a possibility I guess but eh...

Now, if no one has a gun but turbo, the safest thing turbo can do for herself is not give any more guns out. I think the amount of paths that could lead to her death in that scenario were 0. My death is likely whether it be from a safe night kill or a "safe" day lynch. My only hope of survival is to get a gun, which goes against turbo being safe if I am assumed to be mafia (I'm not). Also, if Angel is maf, and I'm not, that means either saint or dvid is maf. If angel isn't mafia then I'm getting nightkilled for sure.

I am left with one final possibility on how this will play out, under a crazy assumption I will not say aloud, that will end with all three villagers, me turbo and 3rd, living. I won't say it because it might endanger someone if it's only partially right. But if it IS right, please have thought of the same plan as me already, turbo and 3rd.

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