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Noffletoff · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:33 am

I'm not being sarcastic.

Syobon · **Joined:** Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:34 am **Posts:** 15027

@obnosim, She's not as stupid as Trump to leave flagrant evidence out in the open, there is some juicy stuff on wikileaks though. From what I've gathered there's:

-Being sponsored by the weapon industry and being involved with US war efforts in the Middle East
- that Benghazi thing
- Underhanded practices to win the campaign against Bernie (including unconfirmed suspicions of rigging the thing)
- Underhanded practices in her campaign against Trump (including sending people posing as Trump supporters to rallies to stir up violence)
- the whole email scandal
- said about Julian Assange in a defense meeting: "can't we just drone this guy"
- victim-blamed her husband's rape claimants
- being a puppet for corporate and foreign interests (1 example: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/27/us/po ... leaks.html)
- being a liar
- fired from working on the Watergate Investigation for lying and unethical practices (http://savannahnow.com/news/2015-12-21/ ... estigation)

As a non-US citizen, it's mostly her warmongering nature and probably draconian views on privacy and freedom of information concerns that worry me. I don't have a source for much of this since there's not much point into investing a ton of time into the US election for me, so I wouldn't blame you if you didn't believe me, I'm not sure how much of it I believe myself. You can do your own research and decide for yourself of course.

However, what I've seen so far has been enough to convince me that she's nothing less than a corporate fascist, who's concern lies with power rather than the wellbeing of the people.

Noffletoff · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:09 am

There's also paying for people to go to Trump rallies and start fights

The Nightman · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:38 am

Syobon wrote:

As a non-US citizen, it's mostly her warmongering nature and probably draconian views on privacy and freedom of information concerns that worry me. I don't have a source for much of this since there's not much point into investing a ton of time into the US election for me, so I wouldn't blame you if you didn't believe me, I'm not sure how much of it I believe myself. You can do your own research and decide for yourself of course.

As a US citizen, this is what keeps me from voting for her. I also can't justify voting for Trump, even though I do actually agree with some of his plans, because of the things he's said.

People like to joke that Trump will lead us to WWIII, but I think Hillary could start us further down the path to a Big Brother society, and I honestly don't know which one I'd rather live in.

D-vid · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:43 am

Noffletoff wrote:

If I know someone is evil, I wouldn't want them in charge of a country. I would figure if there was something evil about Trump we would have seen it already.

Besides, his rallies seem very alive and he seems very passionate about the country, Hillary is the complete opposite.

He's kinda using his cheddar as an excuse to go around sexually harassing people, he's constantly insulting people, generalizing entire ethnicities, has run multiple of his businesses into the dirt but stayed rich by fucking everyone else over and will probably do his best to further the already really bad attitude of making businesses richer and the poor poorer.

Great Eyewarp · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:55 am

Sollix wrote:

Sir Real wrote:

Both options suck, might as well not vote.

A no vote is a vote for Trump. The american political system is very strange to me, but the way I see it, if you're not voting then you dont have the right ot bitch and moan about who gets voted in because, of course, you didnt vote.

If I were american, I think I'd be voting on who'd I rather see with the Nuclear launch codes.

I was being sarcastic. There's no way in hell that Clinton is anywhere near as bad as Trump.

Noffletoff wrote:

If I know someone is evil, I wouldn't want them in charge of a country. I would figure if there was something evil about Trump we would have seen it already.

Do you live in another dimension, have you been living under a rock for the past year, or do you just have an incredibly skewed idea of "evil?" In case you needed a reminder of what Trump has done:

Obnosim wrote:

1 - How many child rape cases are there against Hillary Clinton?
2 - How many fraud trials?
3 - How many employment and housing discrimination cases?
4 - How many illegal immigrant workers did/does she employ?
5 - How much cheddar did she lie about giving to charity?
6 - How many millions of dollars in tax evasion has she publicly gloated about?
6a - During how many years did she not pay taxes at all?
7 - Has she gone on record taking pride in being able to commit sexual assault and avoid punishment?
8 - How many times has she actively encouraged violence against her opponents?
8a - How many times has she called for the murder of her opponents?
9 - How many times has she called people racist surnames and used stereotypes against them?
9a - How many times has she called for discrimination based on ancestry, ethnicity or origin?
9b - How many major religions has she tried to ban?
10 - How many times has she advocated genocide?
11 - How many times has she advocated using war as a way of stealing other countries' natural resources?
12 - How many dictatorial regimes has she praised?
13 - How many foreign intelligences has she asked to hack her country's government to retrieve secret information?
14 - How many people has she ridiculed based on looks?
14a - How many disabled people has she made fun of?
15 - How many hate groups support her?
15a - How many times did she tweet actual neo-Nazi propaganda?
15b - Does she have the KKK behind her?
15c - How many gun nuts has she exalted enough that they now threaten to obstruct the voting process and to murder innocents and especially women and people of color if she does not get elected?
15d - Did her public discourse stir up racial hatred reminiscent of 1930s Germany?
16 - How many bankruptcies has she gone through in her career?
16a - How many companies refuse to have do anything with her?
16a1 - How many candy companies have had to publicly distance themselves from her?
17 - How many high-ranking members of the party behind her have completely or partly disavowed her?
17a - How many of them encouraged people to vote for the candidate of the opposite party?
18 - Has she preemptively announced that she would not respect the outcome of a democratic election if it is not in her favor? (See 15c)
18a - Did she publicly say that she would imprison her opponents if she is elected?

Sollix · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:02 am

Sir Real wrote:

Sollix wrote:

Sir Real wrote:

Both options suck, might as well not vote.

A no vote is a vote for Trump. The american political system is very strange to me, but the way I see it, if you're not voting then you dont have the right ot bitch and moan about who gets voted in because, of course, you didnt vote.

If I were american, I think I'd be voting on who'd I rather see with the Nuclear launch codes.

I was being sarcastic. There's no way in hell that Clinton is anywhere near as bad as Trump.

Thank god.

But my point still stands. Vote people.
Hell, Vote third party if you have to but for real. This is how Canada ended up with 8 years of Stephen Harper, a recession, and a tarnished reputation.

Noffletoff wrote:

If I know someone is evil, I wouldn't want them in charge of a country. I would figure if there was something evil about Trump we would have seen it already.

This is another reason why we ended up with an additional 4 years of Harper turning the country tits up, Noff.

Trump demeans women and ethnic minorities and has always been intent on being a political tyrant. I'm not the most political correct user on this forum. I fucking hate it. But I can say safely that Trump, a busisness man with zero political experience is the LAST person I want running one of the Earths most powerful countries. He's cheddar hungry, power hungry and doesnt think about anyone but himself.

/rant

Noffletoff · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:31 am

I just agree with Trumps positions and stances on what needs to be done in the country, I believe that our country should be put first before others, and that we need to do something about the debt and jobs, and Obama care has been a disaster.

I just wanted to see if anyone else here agrees or not.

D-vid · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:30 pm

Noffletoff wrote:

I just agree with Trumps positions and stances on what needs to be done in the country, I believe that our country should be put first before others, and that we need to do something about the debt and jobs, and Obama care has been a disaster.

I just wanted to see if anyone else here agrees or not.

The man doesn't actually have any plans oh how to do any of the things he says he wants.

Sollix · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:46 pm

Thats the problem with letting ANYONE run for President in the USA though, Dave. You get wingnuts who dont know what to do running.

Great Eyewarp · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:59 pm

Noffletoff wrote:

I just agree with Trumps positions and stances on what needs to be done in the country

You agree that we need to spend more on our military, even though we already spend far more than anyone else? You agree that we should bar an entire group of people from entering the country based on their religion? You agree that we should build an outrageously expensive and ineffective wall across our southern border?

Noffletoff · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:02 pm

Well, when you put it that way.

Yes.

Airra · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:48 pm

Doesn't North Korea already have all of that?

Not trying to be snarky or anything, but that sounds like a partial description of North Korea, where they spend so much cheddar on their military that almost the entire country is living in poverty and have a complete and total ban on immigration. And forget about every thinking that their magnificent leader is anything less than a physical god.

Great Eyewarp · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:51 pm

Noffletoff wrote:

Well, when you put it that way.

Yes.

Not sure if trolling or just militaristic xenophobe.

Noffletoff · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:54 pm

I agree on a wall to keep illegals out, I agree on keeping refugees and immigrants for terror prone countries out, and the VA is a mess. Just because you word it a certain way doesn't change how I feel about it.

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