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Yeah, cause the UK has a great track record on matters of the Open Internet right? Most governments seem hellbent on limiting open and secure communication, that has very little to do with this issue.

People are flustered over it cause it is tanking the economy.

That and the vote was riding a wave of misplaced nationalism with people saying shit like this is Britain's independence day.

Wanting to leave the EU is a fair opinion, but now was just not the time, and they did so out of moronic xenophobia and misplaced hopes.

Well it's a good thing that there are people in South Korea forward-thinking enough to already be considering a bilateral trade agreement with Britain. Instead of getting riled up about the market impacts and shaming Britain, South Korea is working on analyzing said impacts and how it can move ahead in trading with both them and the EU.

Good for them. Don't see how that changes the fact that stock is plummeting right now? Pretty easy to understand why people would be upset about that.

I also fail to see how this is going to benefit any one economically in the long run. In fact, I don't believe this is going to benefit any one at all whatsoever. I can understand and sympathise with the desire to be free from the constraints of the EU, but in the long run a united Europe is the only way the European countries are going to be able to stay relevant on the global scale. The UK is still going to struggle with the same problems they have been struggling with for the past decades, only now they have to worry about Scotland seceding and losing trade income.

Also I heard Scotland is more favorable to the EU in general and that they wanted to join if they seceded, and most of Scotland did vote against leaving the EU, so I assume that's one more reason for them to want to leave the UK.

I haven't followed the topic in depth but I though the main argument was indeed racism, mostly towards Syrian refugees.

I feel like narrowing the entire argument for leaving down to just racism is a bit of a generalization. Looking at the map of who voted Remain vs. Leave, large portions of rural England voted Leave. One could make the argument that since they're out in the country they're more racist, sure. But alongside that, people in rural towns are the least likely to see the tangible benefits of the EU while still having to put up with the same amount of regulations as everybody else. There are likely a lot of politicians in London who don't care about them or their problems; one could only imagine how irritating it'd be to have another set of politicians even farther away in Brussels that don't care even more.

If the EU doesn't want more nations to leave, they need to work together with the rest of the member states to ensure that people outside of the large cities, people in fly-by country, etc. see how the EU is working for them, and change things around to where it actually does if there are problems.

This is pretty shite for the UK entertainment industry (television, film, advertisement, video games, animation) which relies on the freedom for talent to move around, currently that is at risk and in the future people might need a visa. Free movement might be negotiated but like with everything else there's uncertainty and panic.

Entertainment industries are a collaboration with EU countries both in terms of production and funding, many potential productions may find themselves without sufficient resources in the future without the EU programmes that fund them. Currently distribution throughout europe is very free which maximises the earnings of businesses, allowing them to create bigger productions and hire more people.

basically dr who will be even shitter and only 10 people will be allowed to work on it at a time


Except our politicians are twats who love censorship so that's not much consolation.

What's infuriating is that people were outright lied to by the brexit campaign and many people probably voted genuinely thinking it was the right thing when they'd been deceived. The rest are old racists, idiots and teenagers posting "kek" on facebook accompanied by an anime girl with a trump hat.

According to polls, the younger demographic actually overwhelmingly voted to stay.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/e ... 2d331dac8f

So just deceived people and old racists.

I'm interested in what Scotland does with this since all of it had a stay vote. They might actually try to leave the UK again and come back to the EU.
Most of Northern Ireland too.

Yeah the Scottish prime minister announced a new referendum yesterday, and Northern Ireland has been talking about merging back with Southern Ireland.

An old person may have many other reasons to vote than racism. This article discusses how the vote came to this and what people can do to prevent further exits from the EU. One thing that it brings up is that this vote gave the older generation their fair say, a way to make their opinion more readily known to a younger generation that has had it comparatively easy.



This point and others in that article are worth considering. Ignoring people who may have genuine complaints and accusing them of racism or having been lied to doesn't help anybody.

I agree with Burnt on this, the driving force behind the Brexit was nationalism, not racism.

I read an article today (which, when I find it again, I'll post it here for you folks to dissect) stating that there's apparently folks in Germany who want to follow Britain's lead and leave the EU as well, something about bureaucratic crap in Brussels, or something like that. I think the phrasing used "bureaucratic slavery" or something like that.

Wouldn't it be a better move to just, I dunno, wait and see what happens with Britain? Granted, I don't think they'll suffer a total economic collapse, but things might get a bit rough there for at least a few years.

Now, I ain't one a them fancy pants englishmen, but, I'd imagine a lot of conservative groups in Europe are using Brexit as a rallying point and pursuing a similar end. The sudden plummet of the GBP and the ensuing scandal is probably gonna dash those hopes tho, but what do I know? I know we have several European members here, and I'm curious to see what they think of the whole shebang. Texas has been trying to do something similar for years, but no one really cares enough to give a shit, maybe enough of the wrong people gave enough of a shit to fuck shit up?



Is Britain the Texas of Europe?

There's folks like that in every EU country, but they're mostly a small minority.