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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 5
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:33 pm 
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And Kamak... I really don't know. He could be a mafia mastermind or just a townie who is very active.

Keep in mind, I implicated Cori from the start of the bandwagon against her. If I was mafia that close to winning, I would have tried to "accidentally" omit information that makes fellow mafia look bad and overemphasize data that incriminates town.

The fact that we got a mafia yesterday doesn't automatically make me innocent, but I'm not sure why people would still be so wary of me.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 5
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:34 pm 
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I did get some pm's from runes last night that would've directly pertinent to this situation, if I'm allowed to post them.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 5
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:44 pm 
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I don't think outside talk is permissible.

About the only thing you can claim is being visited by a power role or getting a gun or something.

Besides which, what would prove that you're telling the truth?

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 5
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:45 pm 
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I think I expressed myself incorrectly again. I find you suspicious regardless of who if you had voted for Cori or not based on suspicions of me and others from the past. But given that you did vote for her, I listed what I think of everyone who did vote for her since I believe that there is at least one mafia among those.

When cori voted for you, she was basically already past the point of being saved. It should have been obvious to her that no matter who she votes for wouldn't get lynched. So it's entirely possible that she voted for another mafia because that would make them look innocent.
If that is true, then Guyperson seems innocent cause he just voted for you at the beginning.
If you're innocent, then that makes Guyperson more suspicious.
But you're still my number one. Closely followed by Guy. Then Tammerath and Kamak somewhere further behind.

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D-vid wrote:
And Kamak... I really don't know. He could be a mafia mastermind or just a townie who is very active.

Keep in mind, I implicated Cori from the start of the bandwagon against her. If I was mafia that close to winning, I would have tried to "accidentally" omit information that makes fellow mafia look bad and overemphasize data that incriminates town.

The fact that we got a mafia yesterday doesn't automatically make me innocent, but I'm not sure why people would still be so wary of me.

Ah yes, the day was very long I only looked at the order of votes now. That makes you go down in my list of course.
My suspicion list right now is
Reyo
Guy
Tammerath
Kamak

with innocent
SaintCrazy

and Angelic and Turbo floating around the hammerspace of "unsure" with Turbo trending in the innocent direction cause he killed Crisp but staying in unsure because it might have been a plan.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 5
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:56 pm 
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Reyo wrote:
I did get some pm's from runes last night that would've directly pertinent to this situation, if I'm allowed to post them.


Kamak wrote:
I don't think outside talk is permissible.

About the only thing you can claim is being visited by a power role or getting a gun or something.

Besides which, what would prove that you're telling the truth?


There's no rule explicitly stated in the first post about PMs, but of course E-goat has the final word.

In the past I /think/ it's been allowed, but you can't post screenshots of any outside communication.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 5
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:34 pm 
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Well, runes was a power role, and the nature of the conversation was related to that, so I don't know. It might. That's why I wanted to ask.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 5
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:41 pm 
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No posting about conversations that may or may not have taken place outside of the game. Sorry!

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 5
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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 5
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:46 pm 
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Also you'll have to forgive me. We've started the Super Bowl festivities.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 5
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:19 pm 
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Kamak wrote:
If Angie is guilty:
D-vid, Cori, Runes, and Kamak are likely innocent
lynched a known innocent
helped try to lynch D-vid, a likely town.
Likely accomplice:
Reyo: suspicion (seriously, only 1?) lines up with Angie
Kinks: Not much to go on

What's with this "seriously only 1?" part though?

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If D-vid is guilty:
Reyo, Guy, Runes, Tam, and Kamak are likely innocent
Lynched a known innocent
Likely accomplices:
Saint: not hooked night 4, likely teamed up with Kamak (not hooked night 1, suspects D-vid, suspects Angie, possibly teamed up with Runes (who D-vid Suspects)), suspects Angie.
Angie: Suspects D-vid, possibly teamed up with Reyo (Suspected by D-vid)
Kinks: Who the hell does D-vid work for (or with)?

Found another thing: D-vid thinks I'm innocent. (Which is weird, cause I kinda suspect him.) Not sure if you just went back and copy pasted your suspicions and edited stuff about Cori, but I'm starting to wonder if you messed up on other info.

Guy, are you sure gunsmith gave guns every night? What if the hooker got to them on more than one occasion? (Super unlikely, but maybe at least once?)

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 5
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:33 pm 
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Seriously only 1 refers to Reyo having only one suspicion when I made the chart, meaning his suspicion lined up with anyone who thought that person was odd.

As for d-vid, if he were guilty, because he trusted you, you'd be much more likely be an accomplice. Which is why you're there. Red text indicates the flaws though, because if you were both mafia, why would you implicate him?

The only thing I changed was flipping the logic for runes being innocent and red texting contradictions that make cori look innocent or runes look like scum.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 5
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:36 pm 
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Oh, I had forgotten about the hooker possibly stopping the smith.
So there is a minimum of one gun on the field right now, maximum of 4 assuming he never willingly stopped handing out guns/got hooked. I leave the possibility of zero guns in play out because he'd give himself one, so there will ALWAYS be at minimum one town gun.
Feel free to make your own suspicions on how the game will play out from gun placement.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 5
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:40 pm 
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I think he said "only one" as in I only suspected one person out of the whole game. To be honest though, i only did that because I was suspected since I suggested the gunsmith out himself out of ignorance. I hadn't realized the mafia could've had a gun, so I took it back.

Since then, though, I took information on who voted to lynch then, and my suspicions have turned toward you (sorry), tam, and someone else. I apologize for my situation though since my Super Bowl festivities are getting in the way quite about more than I though they'd be.

I'd look back on who that "someone else" is, but honestly, the fact that I was able to call my parents right now is a miracle enough. I sincerely apologize. I'm leaving this all to you guys until tomorrow afternoon for multiple reasons. You can lynch me if you want, I completely understand, but I beg you guys for interest of the town not to. That is all. Thank you.

And goodnight.

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 5
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:11 am 
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Alright, it's been long enough, who are we voting for?

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 Post subject: Re: Mocha Mafia - DAY 5
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:14 am 
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I'm leaning towards Tammerath.

How much more time do we have?

I'll go ahead and put my vote just in case - lynch Tammerath.
Subject to change if anyone smells more guilty.

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