AWKWARD ZOMBIE

Well, the Cop can't really come out or he/she'll risk becoming a Mafia target. I actually find it suspicious that neither Bear nor SPAM have been assassinated, seeing as they're both claiming a power role. Though, I'm not sure if visiting a Granny means you can't assassinate someone or if you can only either Assassinate or have one of your power roles activate. So would Crisp visiting the granny negate any other Mafia night actions?

Doctor can still protect them. And if Mafia has no clue who the doctor is then that can buy us some time. We don't really need the cop to claim now seeing how it's not vital to the game if he/she doesn't have anything important. Also, Granny does stop the action.

So if Crisp visited the Granny to outfit her with something then she blows Crisp away and the Mafia grieve over the loss of their Tailor and don't do anything else at all? Like, their nightly killing is cancelled as well as any other night actions for them?

That's exactly how and what happened.

You guys better get to voting. Either me or SPAM needs to be killed to end this and move on to bigger and better things.

Other night actions are not inhibited by going to the granny. You can't kill the granny as mafia at night.
Imagine it as the mafia member knocking on their door and immediately getting shot in their face before they even know what's going on.
Alternatively the mafia could vote not to kill anyone. Or someone could have survived because of a bulletproof vest. Obvs. I'm not telling you what of those happened.

[/GM out yet again and read the rule descriptions or ask me if there's any confusion.]

I'm sure he has and he'll show it through his vote, rather then outright telling it.

Wow, nice shot, Granny.
Chopstix, the cop probably doesn't wan't to out themselves until they absolutely have to since they'll be targeted almost immediately. They might try to help us without saying so though, so we gotta listen to everyone and think about what they're saying. Plus when the doctor visits them, the doctor becomes unsafe because the mafia can just watch the cop and find out who the doctor is and kill them too (that's what happened last game). That being said, wall-o-text inbound...

For the lookout scenario, I am honestly waaaay more suspicious of SPAM. Here's my reasoning:

He is very much capable of making this whole thing up. The results he had from his "watch" either could have easily been made up, or just stolen from the mafia's lookout. Neffy's reports seem to be more "random", because like all of us at the beginning of the game, he didn't have much to go on. In addition he knows the game pretty well and is clever like that.

SPAM said switching votes made Neffy suspicious, but Neffy gave good reasons for all of them.

Here's the complicated part that I had to think through.
SPAM counterclaimed watcher after Neffy voted to lynch Kamak, who turned out the be guilty. This seems a lot like the mafia was thinking "oh crap they're gonna lynch one of our own, we gotta protect him", so SPAM stepped up and tried to fool us into thinking he was the watcher to protect Kamak. HOWEVER this wouldn't make sense since SPAM then suggested to lynch Kamak.
So maybe then I thought Kamak would be the miller, but there's no way for the mafia to know since they don't have any classes that can determine someone's role. So maybe the mafia just got lucky, planned to get us to lynch an innocent person, but he turned out to be the miller. The problem with this theory because then, if Kamak turned out the be innocent, it would reveal SPAM as the liar and they would essentially be sacrificing him. It's possible, though, since they had the tailor and could cover up the death to confuse us. It's also still possible that even though the tailor is dead, maybe the suit he made could still be used the next day, not sure.

The other option is that Kamak was actually mafia. This option makes the most sense to me, since it lines up with Neffy's report that Kamak visited Galaxy. One member of the mafia has to visit someone in order to kill them, and if Kamak was a miller, there's no way he could have visited someone if he had no night actions as a miller. That means that SPAM pulling for Kamak's death is some kind of sacrifice play to get us to accuse Neffy and lose our watcher. They could (at the time) afford to lose a vanilla mafia. They wouldn't use the tailor on Kamak because they wanted to "prove SPAM right" and use this as a way to convince us that Neffy is guilty. However, as I pointed out earlier, Kamak being guilty doesn't necessarily prove Neffy wrong since he also accused Kamak; it was only SPAM who suggested that Kamak's status would "prove" anything, which must have been a mafia plan.

I'd like to hear SPAM's defense to all this (bring it), but I'm certain enough to vote lynch SPAM.

I'm sure this was obvious already since i was fighting with him yesterday, I vote to Lynch SPAM

Seeing as Saint's explanation is well thought-out and sums up pretty much my reasoning as well, I vote to Lynch SPAM as well. And if he turns out to actually be our watcher, then we'll know Nefarious was up to no good and we'll have a surefire positive kill. Obviously we'll want to avoid losing our members, but at the moment I believe we have the numbers to lose one for the sake of taking down the mafia.

waking up from my flu nap to vote that we have spam for lunch

i mean lynch spam

Cast my vote for somepartsareme
my best judgment from the actions of night

It seems that evidence is piling up against SPAM.
Se seems to have helped us earlier, but the evidence doesn't lie.

Lynch Someparts.

nice job btw saint

also forgot to mention, will be quieter to avoid the vodoo dood.

and ycobb has been SUPER quiet

cant help but notice theshad has only been posting/leaving opinions at the very end of the day.

if somepartsareme is indeed maphia then egoat is suspicious just the same

all for now
-zips lip-

No voodoo dude in this game.